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Sunday, December 21, 2008 - 02:35 am  It looks like we are relocating our competition from KB to FB. If anybody would like to join the North American side message me, or respond to this post. If you would like to join the European side message Vali, or post. If anybody is OPPOSED to us having some friendly inter-continental competition on the "War World" say something now. We'll post the rules and region of this competition shortly. BC
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| Sunday, December 21, 2008 - 02:45 am NO..........They can't say anything! If anyone does'nt like it thats tuff. We are coming to the war world to have a war against each other. If anyone wants to stop us then we will have a war against them. Period. Otherwise someone just for the fun of it will have a problem with it. As long as WE stick to the rules all will be well.
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| Sunday, December 21, 2008 - 03:57 am I know.... that was meant as sarcasm mostly.
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| Sunday, December 21, 2008 - 04:08 am Dam BorderC, you don't mess about. OK fighters. Venue: Virgina Bella, Canis, FB. Rules. One country per person until its hammer time. No population transfers. No Strategic Weapons. No other feds aloud on battlefield. No navies? Europe left. North America right. The war should begin when each side has 3 countries out of war protection.
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| Sunday, December 21, 2008 - 04:13 am I've never seen a C3 with 15 million pop before. I don't look very often either... A lot of these have 12 to 15 million. Is that normal? The ones I've taken in KB have never had more than 7 million.
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| Sunday, December 21, 2008 - 04:14 am It happens...though the GM had got rid of most of them...
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| Sunday, December 21, 2008 - 04:28 am Just taking over my country now......we need to invite some more players ;-)
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| Sunday, December 21, 2008 - 05:47 am This is a list of the residents who are not apart of our war and are not to be bothered. United Republic of Mark: His Holliness King Mark. The Democratic Union of Maxene: Dale0522. The Democratic Union of Berlit: Mapleperduys. Socialist states of Ingshuta: Joe_Stalin84. Any fighter found bothering these leaders will have there country taken off them.
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| Sunday, December 21, 2008 - 05:49 am Brussels has been re-established. EU side check in once you have setup and we can get planning.
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| Sunday, December 21, 2008 - 04:42 pm Since this is FB and they can't have secured countries we should make a rule that the EU countries should start with EU (or whatever) and NA countries should start with NA. That way there is likely a chance for accidents.
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| Monday, December 22, 2008 - 03:29 am yes we need to have a 100% meathod for identifying countries. espesialy cause it is near my main empire aswel.
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| Monday, December 22, 2008 - 03:41 am and i have some naval forces in that country already i will transfer them out boarder c what ur country there i am renaming "NA NORAD north"
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| Monday, December 22, 2008 - 03:44 am im actualy at aloss using that country a c3 is stronger than that one... so i shall transfer a bit in to make it aprox c3 strenth anyone have specific numbers to i can be close.
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| Monday, December 22, 2008 - 03:25 pm HMMmmmm,interesting.lol. Hey Vali,no one invited me to this little play ground,I feel left out  Kidding troops Im looking forward to seeing who does what.Enjoy.... AC
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| Monday, December 22, 2008 - 03:34 pm Andy, Everyone is invited. Feel free to join by setting up a country. If you are in the US or Canada then start a country on the right side of FB|Virgina Bella|Canis. If you're in Europe then start a country in the left side. BC
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| Monday, December 22, 2008 - 04:04 pm Where are the europeans!!!!! Dont leave this to the brits to fight for you!
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| Monday, December 22, 2008 - 05:28 pm Oh so its being kept to one region,cool! that does sound like fun.If the sides are a little unballanced i may pick the lesser force to help ballance out the wars. great idea guys. R AC
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| Monday, December 22, 2008 - 05:59 pm Well, you're suppose to pick NA or EU depending on which one you are from. So far the Europeans certainly have the experience and skill on us. Hopefully some NA vets join in.
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| Monday, December 22, 2008 - 07:36 pm Im assuming gold coins can be used to buy goodies 
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| Monday, December 22, 2008 - 07:57 pm Well not unlimited. I did suggest a 10gc limit. We wont to keep this a fairish fight. Playable by everyone. We have not set all of the rules yet. Trying to get recruits first. Then we can discuss. So just grab a country then build with what you have. Boosters can come in later once we have teams and rules in place.
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| Monday, December 22, 2008 - 08:02 pm in RL if NA went to war with Europe,wouldnt Canada fight alongside the UK?
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| Monday, December 22, 2008 - 08:10 pm That would probably depend upon the reasons for the war.
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| Monday, December 22, 2008 - 08:49 pm RL,I would imagine Canada would fight alongside the USA.But this aint RL.lol Depending on the two sides,the Canuks could even out the two teams if needs be. just a thought ac
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| Monday, December 22, 2008 - 10:54 pm Nah, being part of the British commonwealth (formerely known as The British Empire); Canada would be obliged to fight alonsside the British.
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| Monday, December 22, 2008 - 11:04 pm LOL,so your saying if Great Britain and the USA fought a war we,d[canadiens] would fight against the us? I think not.This is a good debate for another post tho.
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| Monday, December 22, 2008 - 11:28 pm Who is the overall commander of the Canadian armed forces? The Queen. You have a Prime Minister to take care of day to day events, but the Queen is your ultimate ruler.
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| Tuesday, December 23, 2008 - 01:27 am yes exactly stuart i said it i the other post that i feal more loyal to the brittish. than the states we did burn the whitehouse down in the war of 1812 would be fun to do it again
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| Tuesday, December 23, 2008 - 02:22 am Stuart,That may have been so a very long time ago but i assure u,the queen has nothing to do with our politics.Shane,the airport is only a dew hours away,lol,Brits everywhere await your arrival,hehe. Stu ,will you be joining this contest?
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| Tuesday, December 23, 2008 - 03:10 am Andy, you obviously don't know your own governments set up all that well. Part of the constitution of the British commonwealth (of which Canada is a part), is that all member nations are required to fight for the sovereignity of the British crown if asked to. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_of_Canada Read the bit about Executive power..... Its exactly the same story in all of these too; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_members_of_the_Commonwealth_of_Nations_by_name Although we are a commonwealth now as opposed to an empire, The Queen is still classed as the head of state of almost a 3rd of our worlds countries. We had the worlds largest empire, but now we have the worlds largest commonwealth, all (at least in principle) ruled by Her Majesty The Queen. We may only be a small nation, but we built the worlds greatest ever empire, and that is still very apparent today. So there! As regards the contest, no. Sorry, but I have a lot on at the moment in RL. Thanks anyway.
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| Tuesday, December 23, 2008 - 03:45 am come on stuart!! show what ur made of! we need more people to come and join in this fight! legaly the queen owns us but physicaly i dont know it defenetly would depend on how it started. if under any curcumstances the states invaded i would be grabbing my 303 and watching and waiting
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| Tuesday, December 23, 2008 - 03:48 am And who is going to enforce this constitution when the war breaks out? Wikipedia? Face it, the British will have far too much on their hands with a war against the US to threaten Canada. Canada would stand to lose much more if they fought against the US. They'd probably stay neutral unless the purpose of the war was great enough. That's my thoughts anyways. We'll probably never know. Anyways, I thought the crown was more of a nominal ruler than an ultimate ruler. How far do her powers extend? Could she, say, end the war in Iraq if she wanted to? BC
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| Tuesday, December 23, 2008 - 04:39 am "And who is going to enforce this constitution when the war breaks out? Wikipedia?" LOL, well said! Rules questions: once the war starts, can participants declare on any c3 in the region, or just those bordering the participant's or the side's countries? Seems to me if you could declare on any c3s it all comes down to who's quicker on the draw. Also, has it been decided what constitutes victory? Just trying to determine how long this game may take. Barney's coming to town and all that, you know.
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| Tuesday, December 23, 2008 - 04:44 am (at least in principle) ,,,thats My point ,thanks for making it ,lol. She is a figure head,period. She as Great Brittan ,have no say in any Of our countries affairs whatsoever. Dont get me wrong,I love GB,been there several times but there are only emotinal ties at this point. thats it for me on this topic,we seem to have gotten off the point of this thread. Come on people join in on the fun,it will be nice to fight in a friendly situation for a change,lol. Resp,,AC
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| Tuesday, December 23, 2008 - 04:56 am to point out canada did not join in on the war in iraq and legaly the bittish soldures would have to stand down and do as she says come on andy let fight vali! and other unamed europeans u know u want to...
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| Tuesday, December 23, 2008 - 05:55 am If Canada sides with the British, what about hockey? Hockey is a hard-core passion in Canada. What about the rival of the United States teams in the NHL. Go Detroit Red Wings! Do they play soccer on frozen ponds in Canada? As far the war game goes, I've been scouting the region for a nice C3. I plan on playing on the North American side. It will be fun to launch thousands of missiles at Vali. It would be fun to launch some at Atilla because he's on the fence. Some not so friendly fire might curve over to Andy. Jo Jo, I thought Santa was coming to town. Or has been in town. Whatever, I'm old and have been bad... Barney doesn't come to town. He's that child-loving purple herbivorous dinosaur.
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| Tuesday, December 23, 2008 - 06:51 am This sounds like good fun. Im up for the fight. Would the leader of EU contact me in game? The countries Vanguard. Thanks.
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| Tuesday, December 23, 2008 - 07:02 am Haha, ever hear the alternate version of the Barney song, the one kids sing after they're past the Barney-loving age?
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| Tuesday, December 23, 2008 - 10:16 am We have Ice Hockey over here too Dave. Our league is called the EHL (English Hockey League). OK, it's not as big over here as it is in North America, but teams such as Coventry Blaze (the biggest in EHL) regulary attract upto 30,000 spectators. My team, Telford Tigers on the other hand are lucky if they can muster 2,000. We have quite a few ex NHL players over here now too, but it is a mostly amateur sport. The Queen is actually Commander in Chief of all British and Commonwealth forces. If she ordered our troops to stand down, they would have to do as they were told. The commonwealth forces would also (at least in theory) have to aswell.
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| Tuesday, December 23, 2008 - 12:16 pm Anyone with any sense of history would agree that the UK would fight with USA and Canada against the EU :P I'm up for this .. will take over a C3 sometime soon.
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| Tuesday, December 23, 2008 - 05:17 pm Rock and roll,This is comming together very nicely Danneh,glad to have you in my sight big fella.lol. [As they start to square off,hehehe] Syuart,My younger brother played for the Themes river tigers,[basketball,and Im not to sure about the real name of the ball club] His name is Stewart Clark,He was quite good look him up if ya want. Oh Davie ma boy,My rebels might have a suprise for you to ,lmao Enjoy the holidays EVERYONE. ac
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| Wednesday, December 24, 2008 - 02:01 am We need to sort the rules out before I do something that I should'nt. I think that because the population will not be increased, there will already be a limit to how many weapons you can have. Meaning regardless to how many assets are in your country, if you hav'nt the man power, you ain't doing nothing with them. I think it would be also too hard to up hold any other rules other than the ones below. One country per person until its hammer time. No population transfers. No Strategic Weapons. No other feds aloud on battlefield. No navies? Europe left. North America right. The war should begin when each side has 3 countries out of war protection. All non participants in Canis and the surrounding area are not to be bothered. Any fighter found bothering these leaders will have there country taken off them. Any fighter found transfering population will face a warning and will be notified after investigation, how many schools, hospitals and factories they will have to destroy. We can spend as many Gold coins as we want, other than on population transfers. (population transfers are easy to check up on) We can transfer money, buy weapons and swap workers with any other country we own on FB or any other fed members countries. Remember, without man power, assets will only be limited help. I think with these limited rules and freedoms we should have a war without suspicion. What do you lot think? Remember, it's not going to be long until 3 countries on either side will be without war protection. And then, unless you think otherwise, it will be Hammer Time. Victory to the EU
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| Wednesday, December 24, 2008 - 02:35 am Looks like this is going to be lots of fun and a learning experience for some.
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| Wednesday, December 24, 2008 - 02:58 am Thats what I'm saying, and if we get 25 fighters on each side, I think policing any rules, apart from the basics, would be imposible. BorderC, I don't think Valis going to be around for a couple of days and by that time the war will be nearly upon us. If the basics arn't in place now, players might break the rules with out knowing it. Giving them an unfair advantage over players with similar countries.
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| Wednesday, December 24, 2008 - 03:07 am You guys play your game. Ill not come back soon enough to impact your play. Have fun. -B
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| Wednesday, December 24, 2008 - 05:09 pm I know everybody (especially nix) is anxious to get this competition on but I'm of the opinion we should wait a few days at least. People will be most available after Christmas. I suggest that we begin the war on Sunday, December 28 at 8pm GMT which would be Dec 28 2pm CST in the states. I'm not sure when that means we need to declare. Somebody will need to figure that out. As for rules. It will be up to each team's leader to inform and enforce the rules. Vali for the EU and me for NA. - This is a friendly competition first. This is not a real war. We're doing this for fun and continental pride. Be sportsmanlike in your conduct. - All European countries name must start with EU. All North American must start with NA. Even C3s that are captured. We have to be able to identify targets and innocents. - Limit of one country in the region before WAR (not just decs) starts. - EU in the West (left) NA in the East (right). - This war is limited to KB|Virgina Bella|Canis. Don't go outside of the region. Other feds should not be involved. This is independent of your empire or other objectives in FB. - No Strategic Weapons, no navies, no transfers of any kind from other countries. Don't get other countries involved. - GC usage is limited to 25 GC. That should be PLENTY for weapons and population. Correct? As stated before, it's better keep other countries out of this. We don't want to get too invested in this. People will start taking it personal and others will claim cheating leading to a suspect conclusion. - Financial Indexes and Assets should be kept open (not secret). This will provide the best check we can have on cheating. - It may be that at the conclusion of the competition we have interest in doing it again immediately or some time later. So, at the end we will decide how to return the C3s to the losing side or abandon them. Once we've finished we'll have a better idea of how this can work out. Also, if we do this again (revenge matches) we may change the rules to fit the competition as it develops. Any comments, suggestions, complaints? We'll hopefully be able to agree on something soon so we can start. East Siiiiide. BC PS. I'm looking forward to this as a great training exercise. If we can get enough vets and beginners in here it would be great for everybody.
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| Wednesday, December 24, 2008 - 06:39 pm the 28th is a great start date! as for fleets i cant see why they cant be used if ya want them,they wont be to effective in the amount of time we have to build anyhow. Im ok with 25 coins,but a realistic number would in my opinion be 10,keepo it even and simple,good clean fun nice job gents in working this out! AC the grunt.lol
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| Wednesday, December 24, 2008 - 07:49 pm um it is on FB not KB as stated above
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| Wednesday, December 24, 2008 - 08:26 pm Yes.... FB. My mistake... Thanks Shane. Will 10GC (roughly 6 - 8 trillion) be enough to buy the weapons needed or population? I don;t know enough about these things. I figured we be spending more than that on ammo alone.... BC
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| Wednesday, December 24, 2008 - 09:07 pm 'No Strategic Weapons, no navies, no transfers of any kind from other countries. Don't get other countries involved.' How will we be able to police the rule on no transfers of any kind from other countries? I mean, say I transfer some weapons or swap some HTE for MLM, how will you be able to tell? Especialy if we get 50 players playing?
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| Wednesday, December 24, 2008 - 09:47 pm Honor is the way ,also if anyone starts winning to well,it would be a tip off.country indexs are easy to see as well. this is a eun war why cheat
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| Saturday, December 27, 2008 - 03:01 pm War should be starting in the next 48 hours or so. Hope everyone is getting ready....
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| Saturday, December 27, 2008 - 03:27 pm Hope you all had a Merry Christmas. Ok then. So it's: 10 Gold coins. No Strategic Weapons, no navies, no transfers of any kind from other countries. Don't get other countries involved.(even though I think no transfers of any kind from other countries will be impossible to enforce) Financial Indexes and Military Assets should be kept open (not secret). This will provide the best check we can have on cheating. Hammer Time: Sunday, December 28 at 8pm GMT which would be Dec 28 2pm CST in the states. Happy Hunting EU Down with the NA, it's time to start RUNNING.
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| Saturday, December 27, 2008 - 06:33 pm I will stick to those rules but my secret is staying on. I dont like the fact of someone seeing what ammo I have.
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| Sunday, December 28, 2008 - 08:42 pm General G, are you EUF? We want to make sure that's an involved country before we pulverize it. BC
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| Monday, December 29, 2008 - 12:46 am EUF is gonna wipe the floor with you turkeys Bring it on BC.
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| Monday, December 29, 2008 - 01:53 am EUF is a country. I mistook it for you. Didn't see you hiding in the corner there. Well, if you're not EUF then who is? I've already declared on them!
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| Monday, December 29, 2008 - 02:43 am I thought you meant European Force in general. No im not EUF im Scotland EU, yes hiding away in the corner. Ive no idea who EUF is but hes in the fight.
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| Monday, December 29, 2008 - 05:38 am let he who is without sin cast the first stone. the first c3 in the area has fallen it is on
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| Monday, December 29, 2008 - 03:56 pm Nix and Vali have been noticably quiet. I hope they don't miss the war. It starts in a couple of game months.... And we're going to have a late addition as well. Sirsmokesalot is joining the NA side. That should even the numbers up for now. Anybody is still welcome to join in, I suppose....
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| Monday, December 29, 2008 - 05:04 pm GENERAL g,GET READY FOR me .LOL I saw ya hidin in the corner,and now ya have a neigbour as does danneh nix vali and euf,heheheee,get ready for a longer than anticipated tournament, ac
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| Monday, December 29, 2008 - 05:18 pm Crap,Question ? Im assuming that the 10 coin limit extends to countries taken in this war, that is if one should want to spend them. Nix, LOL, Ill be with ya soon my friend.hehehe ac
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| Tuesday, December 30, 2008 - 09:16 am Was born ready AC. I see youve moved in my freind. Once that countries out of WP Your gonna have the whole tartan army banging down your door! Good luck.
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| Tuesday, December 30, 2008 - 08:58 pm LOL....Rest assured I wont be sleeping this time,hahaha.Man I cant believe i did that,hahahaha.Im such a rookie lmao
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| Tuesday, December 30, 2008 - 09:46 pm Yo AC.....I should charge you for cleaning up the mess all those destroyed cruise missiles made.
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| Wednesday, December 31, 2008 - 01:28 am Who,s launching the sneak attacks? Remember the rules? I might have to move in the navy if these sneak attacks keep up. International News -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hostilities between Attacker and EU Danneh Buena is very severely damaged. Weapons based at Buena may have been destroyed. Attacker forces lost 45 land based cruise batteries. The attack may have been reduced or eliminated by Anti Missile Missiles. Attacker lost 551 soldiers and 1360 were wounded. EU Danneh defense was assisted by the Karato and Garrison TG76 unit.
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| Wednesday, December 31, 2008 - 01:46 am Wait. I hope it's just someone thats jealous because we....you lot (as I've just been hammered) are having a bit of fun. Don't let some punk have their fun. To the punk. Join in dood, it beats just going through the grind Hope you all have a happy new year Peace&Hardcore...............Nix001 MNA
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| Wednesday, December 31, 2008 - 02:38 am It's impossible to get supplies at this point. This is insane. Good game Nix. Have a great New Year! BC
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| Wednesday, December 31, 2008 - 02:41 am General G, Sneak attacks aren't in the rules... There really is no reason for one of us to sneak attack since this is an open war, unless somebody is using other countries in their empire. I hope that's not the case. Anyways, we are clear that you are not allowed to transfer $$$ or supplies/weapons from your countries uninvolved, correct? BC
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| Wednesday, December 31, 2008 - 12:41 pm Not all of the NA countries were declared on me for a start, and also not andy's C3's. Sneaks are likely from those countries, no foul play I think.
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| Wednesday, December 31, 2008 - 04:43 pm Ive been getting hit by navy fighters throughout the night. Expect some of the same. "unless somebody is using other countries in their empire. I hope that's not the case". Exactly what I was thinking.
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| Wednesday, December 31, 2008 - 05:18 pm Cmon red? No NF! You used more than 1k on me. I will do the same if anymore NF are used. Hostilities between NA DEA US and Scotland EU Imperia is completely destroyed. The unit Imperia of Scotland EU lost 100 helicopters. Imperia lost 1 or more trucks, gasoline and military supplies. Scotland EU lost 88 soldiers and 293 were wounded. NA DEA US forces lost 77 navy fighter planes. The attack may have been reduced or eliminated by Anti Missile Missiles. NA DEA US lost 488 soldiers and 1310 were wounded. Scotland EU defense was assisted by the Irvin unit.
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| Wednesday, December 31, 2008 - 05:33 pm Hey gang,If im not mistaken,nfp,s were never ruled out.Personaly I dont have any and Im sure none of us are using our real countries to fight. Your doing well G,keep it up. Danneh,I thought you were away from the game? Glad to see your not.I fight both of you later today, could you both set up a BBQ for my sf units?that would be lovely,lmao. happy new years eve all/ ac
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| Wednesday, December 31, 2008 - 05:39 pm no navies does imply no NFP's, naughty dragon!
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| Wednesday, December 31, 2008 - 06:02 pm BBQ is ready and waiting ac and your SF are on the menu ;)
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| Wednesday, December 31, 2008 - 06:20 pm One country per person until its hammer time. No population transfers. No Strategic Weapons. No other feds aloud on battlefield. No navies? Europe left. North America right. this was what i was reffering to,I guess later in the messages it was established navies were banned? still why doesnt anyone want them[but red]lol.i cant see a week navy as a real problem..but I will defer to the will of the majority on this. regards ac
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| Wednesday, December 31, 2008 - 06:21 pm g Ill bring the beer
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| Wednesday, December 31, 2008 - 06:30 pm If you look back, the majority before I wrote that was no navies. There are more rules than that. Anyway. It's the first time I've scrolled down and one of my countries is'nt there.
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| Wednesday, December 31, 2008 - 10:46 pm You can have on of my play countries Nix.lol. Hey Gen G,let me know if my stacking sf units on my countrys targets is a pain in the ass,Iv,e never tried it before and would like to see if it slows ya down enough to use the taktic in future real wars.thanks in advance.ac
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| Wednesday, December 31, 2008 - 11:25 pm whos been paintin my country? i didnt have the time to spead my units out to stop u damb rl!
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| Thursday, January 1, 2009 - 12:23 am well scotland say byby to ur SF units and eu counter na unit i guess im not allowed to attack ur units bc our war expired... it is dumb but life goes on
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| Thursday, January 1, 2009 - 08:03 pm well thats all folks.General is getting back to rl sim play,and the rest are gawn,so thanks all,it was fun.Lets do it again sown the road
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| Thursday, January 1, 2009 - 08:32 pm Great Job NA. I'm not sure what happened to Vali. I suspect he was unable to be as involved as he had anticipated. All said it's hard to say who the MVP was. AC took several C3s to get us started and took out Danneh as well. Red took out Vali, Nix, and another EU player. I think we could use some more prep time (and maybe spending limits) in future bouts. Good game EU. Maybe change things up a little next time to make it more interesting. BC
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| Thursday, January 1, 2009 - 08:48 pm Hey, if anybody wants their country back we should give them back. I, for one, am going to keep NA Washington. 15 million population is a good start for a slave country. BC
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| Thursday, January 1, 2009 - 09:48 pm Well I couldnt let a war simply end,lol. I finished scotland off,it was no walk in the park for sure.I wanted to see what i was fighting against,hehehee.Well done everyone. Im certainly in on the next one regards and respect,,, Andy
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| Friday, January 2, 2009 - 09:47 am More prep time and bigger spending would deffo be a good thing. Ammo runs out fast. Well done again folks. If its on LU next I will take part again.
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| Friday, January 2, 2009 - 04:26 pm I don't think LU has the space we need to conduct a competition like this. Maybe GR or WG would be better next time. We'll see. BC
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| Friday, January 2, 2009 - 07:39 pm and na has seaming left the area after blowing up europe they realized the area sucked still and left it promptly. leaving it full of big holes and unexploded shells everywere it truely is a big diserterted war zone good luck with the clean up world NA making big ugly disaster areas since the 1800's choose NA for experience u can trust
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