| Wyatt Burton (Golden Rainbow) | Friday, October 7, 2011 - 07:12 pm 
I have created a federation which goal it is to help spread the Nationalist and Fascist revolutions around the world of Golden Rainbow. It is our primary goal to unite all nations who follow these similar right wing extremist ideologies regardless of race, religion and creed. Please answer the call to arms my dear komeraden!
SO who is interested?
Hail Victory! |
| Supreme Proletariat (Little Upsilon) | Friday, October 7, 2011 - 11:17 pm
Wow. This is the biggest political contridiction that I've ever seen...fascist revolutions? Haha |
| Wyatt Burton | Saturday, October 8, 2011 - 08:17 pm
So are you attempting to say that it is impossible for a Fascist revolution to take place under any regime. Communist are not the only revolutionaries comrade. Anyway this is not meant to be a political discussion as I am not really a Fascist and am only taking this role in game simply for the fun of it. The only thing I have in common with real life Fascist is that as a supporter of democracy and capitalism I absolutely hate commie trash ;) |
| maclean (Kebir Blue) | Sunday, October 9, 2011 - 11:55 am
Hear, hear! |
| James the fair (Little Upsilon) | Tuesday, October 18, 2011 - 03:14 am
Wyatt if you had a country on little upsilon you would definitely have to join my federation the 'anti communist league' as there seems to be so many commie players here on this game, i'm not keen on those socialists type myself.
Equality of Oppertunity. not Equality of Outcome. |
| Wyatt Burton (Golden Rainbow) | Wednesday, October 19, 2011 - 11:45 pm
It is good the fight against the far left is seen on all planets. |
| youwillfall (White Giant) | Thursday, November 3, 2011 - 12:51 am
the oppertunity is not equal. |
| youwillfall (White Giant) | Thursday, November 3, 2011 - 12:56 am
im not as far left as i am in the game but its fun to go extream. but i dont think the left right wing scale realy accuretly represents the sceanarios that take place on the forum |
| James the fair (Little Upsilon) | Thursday, November 3, 2011 - 12:58 am
I know it is'nt mate, theres single mothers living in a house with 2 to 3 kids living rent free until they reach at least 3 years of age, I know one personally who does that and theres tens of thousands of families in this country (UK) who do exactly that, yet our government is wondering why theres a housing crisis for hardworking young couples who are forced to live in rented accommendation.
Yet they call that 'Equality? |
| youwillfall (White Giant) | Thursday, November 3, 2011 - 01:12 am
if your family is "rich" it is way easier for them to stay rich. pure equal opertunity is 100% public education including post secondary.
are you seriously complaining about helping out single parents with multiple kids? can you immagine having to raise 3 kids alone and have to put in 40 hrs? the early years of life are were most of the developement happens, you need to be there for your kids, i know its hard out there tryin to do things the right way but come on, think of the children. |
| youwillfall (White Giant) | Thursday, November 3, 2011 - 01:18 am
i dont know much about UK politics, but you cant completly ignore the inequal results espesialy in the more extream cases. |
| James the fair (Little Upsilon) | Thursday, November 3, 2011 - 01:30 am
We as the 'taxpayers' should'nt be having to keep such as that lot, you don't have a clue what most of these type of people are like here, they're utterly scum, but if they wanted kids and knowing damn well they can't pay for them out of their own pockets that's their own fault and should have had a better boyfriend or husband to be there for them and yet you wonder why your income and council taxes are sky high as were paying for them (through taxes).
Well i'm somebody who still strongly believes in 'traditional family values' such as marriage before kids and 'Sticking together' especially which can still work in this 'so called' modern world. My parents did so and their parents before them and the parents before them and so forth.
Does'nt anybody have any sense of moral values anymore? no wonder we have a lot of degenerate, deprived, lazy and useless people we have today, it's certainly the case here but I don't know about where you are though. |
| youwillfall (White Giant) | Thursday, November 3, 2011 - 01:59 am
ethics seem to be missing everywere... there are a lot of problems with society but im pretty sure its not single parents with 3 kids under 3 having a roof over their heads |
| youwillfall (White Giant) | Thursday, November 3, 2011 - 02:04 am
how can you live with yourself calling them scum just because you dont want to pay taxes? weres the moral value in that |
| James the fair (Little Upsilon) | Thursday, November 3, 2011 - 02:35 am
You don't realize what you're saying, you really don't have a clue of the real world do you? i've been robbed by the likes of them or people that come from such families, i've tried helping such people and look where it got me, you would understand where i'm coming from if it ever happened to you.
We all have to pay taxes as it's a fact of life, but why the hell should the hardworking people like me be paying such extortionate taxes which an awful lot of it is being given to the ones who don't work and don't want to work, I know them type of people like the back of my hand only too well, but you don't realize of how heavilly taxed this country is, I know a lot of people I know myself are thinking the same thing as me, and I did'nt say 'I don't want to pay taxes' we all want whats 'fair' here and i'm just saying a lot of the tax here goes towards social security, to the wrong ones at that. |
| Crafty (Kebir Blue) | Thursday, November 3, 2011 - 12:37 pm
It sort of is a problem with the people you are talking about, both of you. See youwillfall, what you see a lot of here is young girls, and I mean 16 or even younger, having children so they have to be housed by councils, and then they have a further child because they want a bigger apartment/house, often with a different father, and the cycle spirals. They cant work for poor education and having maternal responsibilities, those that do take responsability for their offspring (not a large enough proportion), the children grow up with no moral upbringing and the cycle starts again.
Obviously there are many different issues that drain resources, tourist healthcare, black market cheap labour, immigration etc. etc. etc.
But how do we determine which individuals do need state help, and which are just...lazy? That would require individual case assessment, and how would we do that, one case worker for each claimant? Lord knows there's too many pen pushers already, that's where most of the money goes. |
| James the fair (Little Upsilon) | Thursday, November 3, 2011 - 05:58 pm
AT LAST finally someone who understands me where i'm coming from, I knew I could count on you Crafty and me and you know damn well it's happening all around us, does'nt the riots we had this year telling you theres something seriously wrong with this society? because I don't think it will be the last riot either, not by a long, long way away.
Like I said before, i've tried helping them out and it did'nt do me any good, 'I'M DONE' with such at that lot. |
| James the fair (Little Upsilon) | Thursday, November 3, 2011 - 06:00 pm
Anyway what do you think of the recent Eurozone crisis we have in Europe? |
| youwillfall (White Giant) | Thursday, November 3, 2011 - 06:36 pm
why would someone steal if they didnt need to.
and i highly doubt young girls are having kids just so they have a place to live its rediculus.
why there was a riot is a complex issue, what i read seemed to be the starting of the "occupy" movment with some hooligans mixed in, people feal theyve been pushed to far and no one is happy, so somthing has to be done.
i dont buy the whole it costs to much thing either, if the government didnt the people who need it couldnt afford it. so the alternative is increased crime by nessesity (everyones gotta eat somehow), leading to more police, more jails and the cost go even higher. it mainly comes down to do you want to throw them in jail or give them some help. jail typicaly costs way more, and leads to a less productive society.
now systems to get abused but i dont think it is as widespread as you's think, reducing abuse is defenetly a tricky issue to solve, i will admit to that one. |
| youwillfall (White Giant) | Thursday, November 3, 2011 - 06:41 pm
i must say though i am defenetly enjoying these forums they make you think in ways you never had before and i think both sides tend to come away with a better understanding of each others veiwpoints, at least i am, and its staying civil which is awsome, i never get to have a discussion about these topics that isnt i agree or your the devil |
| James the fair (Little Upsilon) | Thursday, November 3, 2011 - 06:50 pm
it mainly comes down to do you want to throw them in jail or give them some help. (your quote)
It's obvious which one i'm going to say, I say make them work in the prisons, they will actually be a lot productive by being in prison, that's just where you're wrong, they will have to pay for what they've done, it sounds like you're just a do gooder trying to justify yourself who is more than happy to let them get away with it and allowing them to do it again on the streets. making prisoners work for free is a great way for them to get rehabed as good people like me and Crafty will be able get really cheap goods at good quality on the open market, knowing it's not an import, everybody wins, or thats how it should be, which I know right now it is'nt. |
| youwillfall (White Giant) | Thursday, November 3, 2011 - 06:56 pm
ok then take the current situation economy is bad to the prisoners stop working so "hardworking" people can keep theyre jobs? if not they get laid off cant find annother job and get forced into crime to they get thrown in jail to start working again this time for free continueing the cycle.
this is a big issue ill post about later i have to go back to work |
| James the fair (Little Upsilon) | Thursday, November 3, 2011 - 07:10 pm
hmmm.... yeah you've got a point there, but they don't all get forced into crime, mostly good, decent, usually middle class families move out of the cities where theres no work then move to other places where there is work to be had (which has happened a lot), but in this country it mainly depends on the social class and personality of the person whether eventually that individual commit crimes or not.
I also heard about a huge prison on a TV programme once, I think it was a state prison in Louisianna in the United States, where the governor there makes his prisoners work, whether it's repair work, farming or general production, in a quite fair manner as when I saw it on TV I thought it was great what they were doing, so really you could say slavery is still going strong, even today, but only to those who are bad in society. |
| Crafty (Kebir Blue) | Thursday, November 3, 2011 - 07:51 pm
Quote:and i highly doubt young girls are having kids just so they have a place to live its rediculus.
Sorry dude, but they most certainly do. I know several people whose kids boast about the ways they defraud the system. Its a major problem here in the UK says the govt. and they keep trying silly solutions that end up costing more and more admin'. |
| James the fair (Little Upsilon) | Thursday, November 3, 2011 - 08:06 pm
I know one personally who did exactly that just to get away from her mother, she's got 2 kids and shes only 18 years old and livng in a council house rent free, which I think is a national embarassment and shameful to our once great nation.
Hey Crafty, I just wondering if it's possible to sign a petition and get over 100000 signitures about it? just like what happened with EU referendum. |
