| rob72966 | Friday, October 11, 2024 - 06:16 pm 
It's been a while since I checked, but it shows that I am now losing two Targon Batteries per month. I had the same situation which was addressed on the form August 17, 2024 where I was losing one per game month. This was corrected on August 23, 2024.
I should only be using def targon missiles which are quite costly at 103 per month.
Andy can you have someone look into this please. I do not know how long this has been going on, not sure how many have been taken I'm sure it's quite high hundred + more than likely. I would like some added back as you did previously. It really does not matter to me how many, but something for good faith. Please try to correct the problem. I appreciate everything you guys do and I know you're addressing many issues.
Rob
The Brain
Fearless Blue |
| Andy | Friday, October 11, 2024 - 06:28 pm
A small fraction of a Targon Battery is used in maintenance.
It could also be an error.
you can check spending to see how much is used each month.
The real use of such batteries started with the last upgrade.
It was there before but was rounded to zero.
How many such batteries do you have?
Please let me know.
You can also mail.
if there is an error or high use, I will fix it quickly. |
| rob72966 | Saturday, October 12, 2024 - 06:03 am
Andy
1) I have 1145 Targon Bats
2) I have 6 factories that produce Targon batteries
3) Each factory is at 100% hiring 110% production
4) Each factory produces 61% of one battery per month
I use 103 Targon missiles per month
I do not know how long this has been going on, I just happened to notice it today. Whatever you can do is fine. If this is abnormal and you can fix it great. If you can add some back even better. If not let me know and I'll go on from there.
Thanks
Rob
The Brain
Fearless Blue |
| Andy | Saturday, October 12, 2024 - 01:18 pm
It was going on for less than one day.
the use of the Targon batteries for maintenance was in the code for a long time but at the end,
it was not booked to the country because the country did not have a database field to record it.
Now it has.
In the mean time, I reduced the use of Targon Batteries to 25% of what it was.
It will be implemented with the next update, within several days.
I will compensate you for the loss.
I will also discuss here if we need to keep it going.
these batteries are expensive to produce and expensive to maintain.
The question is, do we need to translate the maintenance cost into use of
Targon batteries or into something else.
To be continued. |
| rob72966 | Saturday, October 12, 2024 - 02:44 pm
Thanks |
| rob72966 | Monday, October 14, 2024 - 03:25 pm
Andy
As of today I have gone from
1145 Targon Batteries (October 12, 2024)
1123 Targon Batteries (October 14, 2024)
= 22 Bats
Still losing two per month
Rob
The Brain
Fearless Blue |
| rob72966 | Monday, October 14, 2024 - 06:53 pm
Andy
It seems to be a lot worse than I thought. I just tracked one year of purchases of Targon batteries. I purchase 84 batteries per year for decades (game years) Even if I lose 2 bats per month I should not be decreasing my total, but I am. Recent Purchases
Apr 3 6bats
Mar 3 8bats
Feb 3 7bats
Jan 3 7bats
Dec 3 7bats
Nov 3 7bats
Oct 3 7bats
Sep 3 7bats
Aug 3 7bats
Jul 3 7bats
Jun 3 7bats
May 3 7bats
Total in one game year 84 even losing 24 a year I should still be up 60bats
I can't tell you what is causing this, but my losses are in the trillions. I'm not even sure if you can accurately calculate the number lost. I'll leave it up to you to do what you feel is right. Please stop the bleeding.
Andy feel free to go through my countries and look at whatever you need to.
Rob
The Brain
Fearless Blue |
| Laguna | Monday, October 14, 2024 - 08:59 pm
@Andy,
Given we already have defence weapons maintenance products, shouldn't there be no weapons lost to maintenance? Seems like a very punishing mechanic that disregards the product.
@Rob,
Do you have enough Targon Missiles for the monthly ammo consumption? If I am not mistaken, weapons are destroyed if there isn't enough ammo to keep up with maintenance. Someone fact-check me on this. |
| Andy | Monday, October 14, 2024 - 09:38 pm
We have eliminated the use of the batteries.
It was the only case where weapons were used in maintenance.
ammunition will remain in use as part of the maintenance and the cost of maintaining the army, as it shows on the income and cost page,
includes the cost of the ammunition.
This is how it works for many years.
The change will be implemented with the next upgrade.
Rob,
the next upgrade will stop this.
you can tell me, after the upgrade, how many were used.
It will take place Wednesday or Thursday. |
| rob72966 | Monday, October 14, 2024 - 10:20 pm
Luguna
Thanks for your input.I wish there was more interaction among players here.
I have plenty of targon missiles. There is something else going on.
Andy
I have been producing Targon missiles and batteries since they were available. I was always surprised at how few batteries I had based on how long I've been building them. I don't see away of determining how many I should have. I know the number is quite high. Whatever you think is fair is fine with me. I really just want to see this corrected. I'm not asking for any financial compensation. I do appreciate your attention to this matter.
Rob
The Brain |
| Andy | Monday, October 14, 2024 - 10:27 pm
Rob,
We will just return to you the batteries that were used in this way.
I need to find out how many are needed for a good defense.
I will and return here with an advise.
then add it to the documentation. |
| rob72966 | Tuesday, October 15, 2024 - 01:31 am
Thanks Andy |
| Andy | Sunday, October 20, 2024 - 12:14 pm
Rob,
The batteries are not being used any more.
now, please mail me how many you lost.
I will try find time to think about the numbers needed for a good defense.
I think that their range should give you some idea.
The data is in the weapons document.
In general, I think that the batteries should be placed at a distances a little shorter than their range, and just to be sure, a little closer.
Then of course, you need to decide how many missiles you want to have. |
| rob72966 | Sunday, October 20, 2024 - 05:15 pm
Andy
1) On October 11, 2024 I first noticed the problem. At this time I had 1145 Targon Batteries in stock.
2) As of today October 20, 2024 I have 1094 Targon Batteries in stock.
1145
-1099
=0051 Targon Batteries lost.
Andy at the same time I produce and purchase 7 Targon Batteries per game month.
3) Targon Batteries purchased monthly from October 11, 2024
= 756 Targon Batteries purchased but not added to my inventory.
These purchases all are on the 3rd day of each game month. You can see this data under monthly purchases on my home page.
756 Targon Batteries purchased, but not added to inventory
+ 51 Targon Batteries removed from my inventory
=807
I would like 807 Targon Batteries added back to my inventory. This number is much lower than the actual missing number of batteries. The real number would be too high. 7 batteries per game month since these batteries were available. (multiple thousands.)
Andy I don't believe the number of batteries you purchase should be an issue. Each player has different needs. I keep a large empire and need the flexibility to send batteries to multiple countries in case of war. I have been in wars where many of my countries were declared upon at the same time.
I do appreciate the effort you and your team have put in to helping resolve this issue.
Rob
The Brain
Fearless Blue |
| rob72966 | Sunday, October 20, 2024 - 10:01 pm
Andy did my math wrong. Each real day is 6 game months. I did each game day for one year.
Total should be.
379
+ 51
=429 Targon Bats
Rob |
| rob72966 | Sunday, October 20, 2024 - 10:07 pm
Sorry Andy I did my math wrong. I used one real day as one game year. Should have been two days for one game year.
379 Targon bats purchased
51 Targon bats missing
Total # +429 Targon bats
Rob |
| Andy | Monday, October 21, 2024 - 04:31 pm
I will add these batteries back to the country
The brain on FB.
I will do so tonight or tomorrow.
I am happy the problem is resolved. |
| rob72966 | Monday, October 21, 2024 - 06:07 pm
Thanks Andy will you be able to see why the seven batteries purchased each month are not showing up in my inventory? |
| Andy | Tuesday, October 22, 2024 - 01:10 pm
I added the missing batteries.
I assume you mean that these batteries are purchased on contracts from your corporations.
these Corporations are not producing for lack of Targon. |
| rob72966 | Tuesday, October 22, 2024 - 01:54 pm
I'm sure
1) In stock 2,773,611 tons of Targon
2) over 1,000,000 Targon missiles
3) Each factory is at 100% hiring 110% production.
4) The 3rd day of each month for multiple decades has been purchasing 7 missile batteries per month. I'm short way more batteries than I'm asking for. Not looking for those to be replaced / added. I just would like to see everything working as it should.
Rob
The Brain
Fearless Blue |
| Andy | Monday, October 28, 2024 - 10:52 am
Rob,
can you give me exact data?
example of a corporation that is producing and delivery does not take place? |
