| Yo Zhou | Thursday, August 31, 2023 - 05:23 am 
Oi, my second nation Vrakenfel Kingdom has a bug, it's income is fairly strong, 40B in surplus each month, yet it's constantly hemorrhaging cash. At negative 4T. It constantly climbs out only to fall back to the exact same negativity value. Even in my first, I have a surplus income, and it should be accumulating accordingly but it's not. It would make sense if I was spending more than I made, but what's the point of surplus if it just means I lose the money I am gather? |
| Josias Jorvick | Thursday, August 31, 2023 - 06:22 am
Did you check your order strats? That can do it, both the low water amount, and the quality. |
| Andy | Thursday, August 31, 2023 - 10:50 am
I checked to see what happened.
The country had major shortages of products and the supply index shows that there were many shortages.
It could even get to the point that nothing is being purchased due to short of cash.
Then when cash comes in, everuthing is ordered to reduce shorrages.
you can see the cash flow on the financial page, under the "Cash" tab.
The supply index jumped back to 98 after these purchases. |
| Eeeee OOOooo | Thursday, August 31, 2023 - 04:58 pm
The market has been very poor on White Giant. Many products can take a real life week for basic orders to be filled, which understandably causes countries to go into shortages.
I'm not sure the solution to avoiding scenarios like this unless you massively boost your inventory for all products.
This said, there are new changes posted by Andy that appear directed at helping alleviate this issue. I'm looking forward to seeing how that plays out. |
| Andy | Friday, September 1, 2023 - 02:49 pm
I have seen many shortages decline and hope they will continue to decline. |
| Yo Zhou | Thursday, September 7, 2023 - 08:15 am
Your all missing the point, it was already doing that. The orders were fine, things were running smoothly and yes I checked and adjusted things as needed. This problem happened when Andy fucked with the economy, and it just started losing money in mass, I checked the orders at the time of the collapse and it doesn't add up with any input of mine nor shortages, it was ordering TRILLIONS in electric power, it was ordering beyond, far beyond what the monthly quantity orders to prevent said shortages. And even now it's at -3t, I would influx trillions into it to give it a surplus.
This same thing happened to my former MAIN, Imperial Yakumo, it would just bleed money from nowhere over spending on stock it had years worth of it on hand... So much so it went from 35T to -6T in two real life months and then I danced around -2T to -6T constantly because yes of course by that fucking point it ran out of shit. So yes shortages are apart of the problem congratulations. Look man, I'm just asking for a break here, for you to ACTUALLY do something here, I'm a paying member, I come back to this game because at the end of the day, I'm stuck with you mate, I would like to play the game without it treating me like a autistic child who doesnt understand the damn game they have been playing for well over a decade at this point. The sheer amount of gold I spent turning into currency just to try to resolve the situation, ain't working man. So either throw some trillions into my account so I can try to fix things myself, or give me gold so I can at the least be reimbursed in someway to alleviate the issues, YOU largely caused man. I thinks that's relatively fair in comparison |
| Yo Zhou | Thursday, September 7, 2023 - 08:18 am
(THE LESS ANGRY VERSION)
Your all missing the point, it was already doing that. The orders were fine, things were running smoothly and yes I checked and adjusted things as needed. This problem happened when Andy messed with the economy, and it just started losing money in mass, I checked the orders at the time of the collapse and it doesn't add up with any input of mine nor shortages, it was ordering TRILLIONS in electric power, it was ordering beyond, far beyond what the monthly quantity orders to prevent said shortages. And even now it's at -3t, I would influx trillions into it to give it a surplus.
This same thing happened to my former MAIN, Imperial Yakumo, it would just bleed money from nowhere over spending on stock it had years worth of it on hand... So much so it went from 35T to -6T in two real life months and then I danced around -2T to -6T constantly because yes of course by that fucking point it ran out of stuff. So yes shortages are apart of the problem congratulations. Look man, I'm just asking for a break here, for you to ACTUALLY do something here, I'm a paying member, I come back to this game because at the end of the day, I'm stuck with you mate, I would like to play the game without it treating me like a autistic child who doesnt understand the damn game they have been playing for well over a decade at this point. The sheer amount of gold I spent turning into currency just to try to resolve the situation, ain't working man. So either throw some trillions into my account so I can try to fix things myself, or give me gold so I can at the least be reimbursed in someway to alleviate the issues, YOU largely caused man. I thinks that's relatively fair in comparison |
| jchristy2007 | Thursday, September 7, 2023 - 01:03 pm
Help
password and email login works
when I click on my country I get an error:
"Country Login incorrect." |
| Andy | Sunday, September 10, 2023 - 11:48 pm
Yo Zhou,
I think I have explained what is going on.
I mailed you some hours ago.
it was not easy to see what happens but I explained.
This game simulations now runs for years and it is not doing anything crazy.
The problem is that there are so many factors and things players do and the simulation just recomputes, has it rules and things happen you do not expect.
Cash falling by several trillions while you did nothing, does not happen.
Purchases can be backed up if cash is very low, and then all the orders are being executed in one go and cash goes down.
we had a player claiming that we have stolen hundreds of billions from his account.
(in his mind we had nothing else to do).
He ordered many military units and it created a flood of large orders for weapons and ammunition and his cash plumetted.
we found the reason, but he remained angry, using terms I will not repeat.
we now do not allow ordering many units at once.
Not everyone was happy about it. |
