| Andy | Thursday, November 4, 2021 - 02:40 pm 
As you probably know, Simcountry has a soft limit for population growth.
This is done a long time ago to prevent population explosion.
The limit was around 110 to 120 millions, depending on several factors, mainly health care.
In all countries, as population increased, birth rates declined until a balance was reached and numbers stabilized.
Anyone who tried to increase the population by purchasing, experienced a decline of the population that ended at the same levels.
It happened because after a purchase of population, the birth rates declined a bit more and the population started to decline until it reached the balance as it was before the purchase.
Reaching 200 or 300 millions was virtually impossible. The birth rates were very small at those levels and the population declined quite fast.
we have now introduced an improved procedure that will change the way the population growth is managed.
Starting with the coming upgrade, the number of new born added each month to the 0-4 years old group, will never be reduced to levels lower than the current numbers in the country.
Independent of the total number of population in the country, birth rates will not be reduced without limit.
The number of new born babies, will always be at a level of the 0-4 years old, divided by 48.
This is the average number for each month, in the 0-4 years old.
This change will lead, after some time, to the stabilization of the numbers in the 0-4 years old to start with, and will lead to stabilization in the other age groups, although this may take some time to materialize.
Purchasing population, increases the numbers in all age groups.
Following the purchase, the new numbers in the 0-4 age group will not decline as they do now. The numbers will stay at about the new level.
One exception is the natural death rates that occur in all age groups.
The numbers are quite low and depends on the level of health care.
As a result, we expect the population numbers in high population countries to decline at a much slower pace, slowing even more with time and end up at a very low level of decline that is consistent with natural death cases in the country.
when population is purchased, even at very high levels of population, declines will be at a very low level and the high population levels can be sustained.
The upgrade will take place today or tomorrow.
The effect of the change can become visible in the 0-4 years old group but only in countries where the population was declining. |
| Tendo Ryu | Thursday, November 4, 2021 - 07:14 pm
Thank you Andy, i'm really excited to measure the impact of this change in the coming game years and to aim for the higher game levels in a more sustainable manner. |
| SuperSoldierRCP | Thursday, November 4, 2021 - 07:40 pm
I would be interested in seeing how this plays out in the long term.
In the past I ran a country of 300m and that was fun.
Overall, I think it will be a good change! |
| Andy | Friday, November 5, 2021 - 12:05 pm
We are already looking into it in details.
KB was upgraded yesterday and population in the 0-4 years group is already showing stabilization.
the other groups will continue as before for some time while the new process is slowly expanding to other age groups.
It will take time to see total numbers stabilizing.
I will upgrade the other 4 worlds when the month processing is completed. |
| Lord Mndz | Friday, November 5, 2021 - 09:35 pm
finally!! if this prove to work you will be able to do so much more on top. great work! |
| Andy | Sunday, November 7, 2021 - 09:47 am
It is ongoing in the 0-4 years old.
I was not able to upgrade last Friday.
will do it today, Sunday. |
| Lakan High King Rene Sarabia Jr. | Sunday, November 7, 2021 - 03:20 pm
Thanks Andy for the update! |
| Andy | Wednesday, November 10, 2021 - 11:54 am
I see already that numbers in the 0-4 years old are stabilizing.
you can see that the decline is much slower than it was before (in countries with large population numbers), but the change is only in that group.
It will continue and spread to the next age groups but the process is as slow as aging.
In the long run, I think we will prevent steep declines in very high population countries.
Also, if you add population, the new numbers, currently mainly in the 0-4 years old group, will be largely preserved. |
| SuperSoldierRCP | Wednesday, November 10, 2021 - 10:23 pm
Andy,
I wanted to bring an issue to your attention.
Please check Melichor on LU for more information. I also have screenshots saved if need be in case you cannot see the current values.
Under my natural resource list last month it said I had:
Platinum 541,440 ton
Platinum 101,520 ton
Platinum 541,440 ton
Platinum 541,440 ton
I recently decided to do some play testing into the resource market to see their real production/profitability. I planned on building several corporations to use these as they seemed like extremely large deposits.
If you check the corporations that where just built in the country, the "real remaining resources" are VASTLY lower at: 31,000 / 63,000 / 73,000
I have to assume this is a huge oversight or protentional bug, otherwise a CEO/New president would feel extremely lied to.
I will wait to build any more mining corporations until I get a response as not to change any of my current countries mineral deposits.
I wanted to let you know as quickly as possible so you can fix any incorrect evaluations in natural resources within countries. |
| SuperSoldierRCP | Wednesday, November 10, 2021 - 10:27 pm
Also,
Some additional information I forgot in the above post. Last month under my natural resource list last month it said I had four deposits of:
Platinum 541,440 ton
Platinum 101,520 ton
Platinum 541,440 ton
Platinum 541,440 ton
As of this month, I only have:
Platinum 101,520 ton
Platinum 541,440 ton
Platinum 541,440 ton
Not only did the deposits not provide "real numbers", but it seems upon building one of them completely disappeared. |
| neutralsc | Thursday, November 11, 2021 - 12:27 am
Hi Supersoldier, only replying to your last msg. If I remember correctly: When you queue a mining corp to build, the deposit on the deposit list will disappear. I assume it is because it will be used. However if you cancel the build, the deposit will remain gone until next game month. I havent checked if the deposit number that disappears will correspond with the amount the newly built mining corp is given. |
| Andy | Monday, November 15, 2021 - 08:50 pm
I think neutralsc is correct on the procedure.
in general, when a corporation is created, the amount of reserves is not changing at all.
it starts declining when the corporation is producing the materials.
I did not see any country or corporation name here and it is impossible to see how much resource there was before the corporation was created.
Nobody ever complained about disappearing resources.
we have never seen any such disappearing at all.
I have built a country with more than 120 resources.
nothing disappeared.
I am sure this is a mistaken observation, maybe a different country.
There are no transactions on these resource lists until a corporation is built or closed before the materials are depleted. |
| Andy | Monday, November 15, 2021 - 08:57 pm
Back to population
In a country with a population of 500 million plus, where numbers declined quickly, I can now clearly see that the population in the 0-4 years old is stabilized.
There are small declines due to natural death.
the 4-8 years old group, keeps declining but at a slowing pace.
It will take a long time before more age groups will stabilize, but they will.
Increasing the population by exchange or purchasing, when numbers in the 0-4 years old group increase, these increased numbers will remain and seed other population groups at higher levels. |
