| EnverHoxha | Wednesday, September 12, 2018 - 04:47 am 
The Player country Danzig led by elizondo_jessie has a 2nd account on KB. They are using it to cheat and harass an innocent member of my federation through a no nuclear security council sanction.
If you need proof of the multi accounts just look at his federation. the 2nd account has the same player name just followed by some numbers.
This is cheating, and harassment of an innocent player, who has taken no hostile actions towards anyone.
When i messaged danzig about it, he asked to join our federation, or else the resolution would pass. That is a threat and i believe he might have a 3rd account and has 'fixed' the voting.
Ive already alerted the GM via email, im just trying to make as much noise about this as possible.
Its cheating, its wrong, he should be banned. |
| Anthony King | Wednesday, September 12, 2018 - 07:49 am
Hey mate, I had numerous accounts in the past and some were trial accounts but I have always deleted my accounts first to prevent the multi accounts and I always have one account so I don't know if that makes a multi account or doe's it?
And while we have had many accounts in the past I assume the GM will never banned the player if he or she pays big money to the game to make profits out of ti, I assume the GM will not banned this Jessie player gamer if he or she pays big money. |
| Michael | Thursday, September 13, 2018 - 12:06 am
@Anthony King - big money or not -cheating is cheating -multi accounts have always been tossed out of the game |
| EnverHoxha | Thursday, September 13, 2018 - 01:31 am
I have not received any reply from the GameMaster, its been almost 24 hours. I guess it shows how little he cares, and it says volumes about the state of the game if he keeps someone simply cause they pay. |
| EnverHoxha | Saturday, September 15, 2018 - 04:57 am
Still no reply from the GM. guess they dont care about cheating anymore |
| SuperSoldierRCP | Saturday, September 15, 2018 - 08:55 pm
Guys,
Please chill out.
I get it we all get upset and passionate over the game, but there is only a few people who make sim country (6 I think). They have lives, families, and they cant just ban on names. They probably need to check IP's and all that stuff. They need to do their due diligence. Nothing happens in 5 seconds, You build countries and know that everything takes time. Its only been a few days there's no need to go crying and beating a battle drum because Andy hasn't responded in 2 days.
The GM is typically very active and I've always had them respond to me within a few days. If they haven't gotten back to you by Wed's(1week) then by all means bitch, moan, and cry about it and I'll back you.
However, in the mean time relax give them some time to sort it out and see what happens |
| Khome | Sunday, September 16, 2018 - 11:09 am
Well I'll speak from my personal experience that is similar. I had requested numerous times this month to allow us to use the old layout. All I've seen was one response in the forum that did not directly answer my request and was dismissive. I emailed the GM, expressing my frustrations . I received one response that did not answer my question about the layout. I replied, asking again about the layout. I also asked who was replying since I asked for a different GM since I feel the other one is being unfair and dismissive. That was about a week ago. Their response did not address my frustrations and sounded that they didn't care about customer service . I'll remind everyone, there are those of us who pay money for this game . Customer service anyone? Who else can I report my complaints? Where is the accountability?
About the multi account, it has been a while . |
| EnverHoxha | Monday, September 17, 2018 - 12:10 am
I sent the email on the 11th so its been 5 days, not 2. Tomorrow makes 6 Im not sure what time zone this forum's server is in but im in CST and the time zone the forum is in seems to be a day ahead of me.
IF they are just doing their due diligence, they need to atleast say they are looking into it, and not ignore paying players(or anyone for that matter) outright. It takes 5 seconds to write 'Thanks for that report, we will look into it' |
| EnverHoxha | Monday, September 17, 2018 - 12:19 am
Meanwhile, the harassment continues. Another vote, in the Security Council from ANOTHER account has been started, attacking the same innocent player unprovoked. Its a complete and total misuse of the security council. The last attempted resolution was voted down, as this one will be.
This player is an inactive premium player, who, like the GMS, is busy with life, unaware the account they have worked hard to build is under continued diplomatic attack. By some crazy person with multiple accounts trying to blackmail their way into the Pnakotic Congressional Order.
Its wrong. The GM's lack of even a basic courtesy response, while diplomatic harassment and misuse of the KB security council continues, is also wrong. So yes, i will beat the drums, yes, i will bitch and moan.
Khome, and I built this federation, and i will give everything, and do anything to DEFEND my members. |
| Gintoki Sakata | Monday, September 17, 2018 - 07:03 pm
To bad for you dude. Well, thats geopolitics. Take it or deal with it.
Thats how the Security Council works and had you ever thought of the idea that this is a coordinated attack by multiple players who thinks this is a cool idea. Especially if the Security Council Members are bored as fuck.
By the way, the same thing actually happens in real life. Take for example the Korean War. This is a game of wits and strength. If you want to save that federation member of yours, try to become a member of the Security Council and try to influence the diplomatic order.
Bitch and moan... Just make sure your bite more than you bark. In real life, this scenario is actually happening and it is happening right now as we speak on the issue of Syria.
This is the reason why I dont want to join Federations, unless the Federation members are strong nations. Either way, I'll be staying tuned in to this thread, looks like fun to me.
Sincerely Yours,
The President of the Asian Empire on LU
The CEO of the Xia State Enterprise on LU |
| EnverHoxha | Monday, September 17, 2018 - 11:55 pm
The general vote failed again. I mean they can keep trying, but it will keep failing. I would be on the SC had i not refused the reward last month. Im shooting for number 1 but regardless if i get it or not, i will be accepting this month's reward.
The Pnakotic Order has the strongest nations of KB in it, and some of the longest SC players. Including Aries. Most of our members have atleast 3 countries. Khome, our leader has over 80. Infact 2 whole game regions are under his control.
Im quite proud of this federation. Its most likely the strongest and most active in the game, at this point.
Also, i have proof there is a multi account.
Its not just geopolitics if someone is breaking the rules to do it. Its cheating. |
| EnverHoxha | Tuesday, September 18, 2018 - 12:24 am
Also, the GM ignoring a clear case of cheating isnt just 'geopolitics' either. Its incompetence and mismanagement on their part. Going on 6 days now, tomorrow makes 7. |
| Gintoki Sakata | Tuesday, September 18, 2018 - 09:39 pm
So what are you going to do then? Whine?
Do you have a proof something fishy is really happening? Because if you ask me, I would say its just a few big and bored players trying to spice up the game.
We are playing with nations and mega conglomerates here, simulating them as if we are the leaders. In the real world, we call it geopolitics. And in the real world, there are plenty of cheating happening in the geopolitical arena right now, like the US doing false flag incidents to push their national interests, or China with their cash to literally buy entire nations or with Russia and their massive resources.
Of you want to ask some examples, I can give you some.
To be honest, as an amateur economist watching the stock market 24/7, I can see plenty of cheats that are way worse than you can imagine. Well, were playing nations and corporations here. Even I, if I become the Security Council Member, I would try to see what I can do there, like throwing some of the SC's cash to everyone. Here in Little Upsilon there are players who can do a lot of things that can pose a greater threat than just a no nuclear security council sanction. Like one guy out there who owns a quarter of all of the entire world's oil production. Or the guy there who has enough power to impose a boycott.
And there are only a few GMs running this game. This is not like League of Legends or DOTA2 who has plenty of people running behind them. I think there are only 3 GMs running this game. Who knows maybe one of them is sick, one has some bigger things to deal with or maybe all of them are attending their families.
Another thing, aside from that observation, do you have any evidence that he is actually cheating? You do know that its not that easy to become a number 1 player in your world and to become a security council member. That guy must be investing a lot of his resources in this game to have 2 or even 3 of his accounts as members of the Security Council. I am currently playing 1 leader state, 1 slave state and 1 enterprise and its already a time consuming task.
Sincerely Yours,
The President of the Asian Empire on LU
The CEO of the Xia State Enterprise on LU |
| Khome | Wednesday, September 19, 2018 - 12:35 am
Players using multiple accounts is something that happens more often than one would think. Whenever there is a suspicion of one, they are reported to the GM to investigate. Of course no player can have solid proof, that is why they should report it, so that the GM can view the IP addresses of the suspected accounts and see if they truly are cheating or not. Sometimes the GM does catch them in the act, and then those players are banned. And yes, they do come back and try again, and then they sometimes get caught again. It's endless sometimes. Does not mean that we shouldn't report them. Anyone here long enough has seen it.
Trust me on this, it's not as hard as you think to get on the security counsel. It's pretty random. Achieving #1 at least once is not hard either. It's getting there again that can be tricky, especially if you collect your GC rewards too soon. (points lost). |
| Andy | Wednesday, September 19, 2018 - 03:53 pm
Anyone who really think they know a multiplayer, plase let us know.
"There is a multiplayer" does not help.
please send us a message like:
player xxx and player yyy are the same person.
I know because .....
we will look into it.
we are removing a cheater from time to time.
just need to be sure.
we do have ways to find out. |
| Gintoki Sakata | Wednesday, September 19, 2018 - 06:52 pm
Thanks for the info Khone.
Point noted.
@Andy: So is there any multi accounts here or not? Just curious.
Sincerely yours,
The President of the Asian Empire in LU
The CEO of Xia State Enterprise in LU |
| Khome | Thursday, September 20, 2018 - 01:36 am
Enver said he sent you an e-mail. |
| EnverHoxha | Thursday, September 20, 2018 - 01:54 am
I did send an email. Here is a copy of it, "he player Danzig on KB has 2 accounts and is using them to force a proposal through the security council to place a no nuclear sanction on the slave state of a federation member, the Kingdom of Demonikist. Look at Danzigs federation for proof.
This should not be allowed, its cheating and unnecessary harassment."
If yall want screen shots of the email, just let me know.
The federation is called Wiemar on KB, there are 3 countries with the same theme, and player name, one has the same name as the others, but just followed by a few numbers. Which i assume is a different account, because it would be impossible to have separate presidents' names. |
| Michael Wilson | Thursday, September 20, 2018 - 06:37 am
Hi guys, I'm the same person but you can either call Anthony or Michael. |
| Andy | Thursday, September 20, 2018 - 03:21 pm
I did not see any mail about it yet but the info here was sufficient.
we have taken care of it. |
| Khome | Thursday, September 20, 2018 - 05:19 pm
I also sent some follow up e-mails last week about an unrelated issue. Waiting to hear back. |
| EnverHoxha | Friday, September 21, 2018 - 12:16 am
thanks andy. i appreciate it |
| Michael Wilson | Sunday, September 23, 2018 - 04:13 pm
Thank you Andy for not banning my account. I do know how to play the game except for wars, I am still new and noobie at wars but I can follow the Peace game. Thank you Andy, Michael. |
| III IIII IIIII | Saturday, September 29, 2018 - 03:46 pm
For the record: Theres alot of multis here! Its a problem. I have reported so in the past and Andy and the gamemaster shot me down!! And i had to witness him take his other countrie. It was okay i took it from him but he did it again later. And no one ever did anything. Time went on and we are here now.
There was also several other for sometime that have been ignored: jblandino8 jblandino2 jblandino9 jblandino1 in a Fed called united republics. Small universe really.
To think; one of this cheaters country almost 400 game years old at this point(over a year at the multi mill). No one done a dang thing, his cheating kingdom reigns on!! No one does anything. Well they rig the council. So there is my complaint!! Look around on FB you will see this stinkin little fart; ruining the game for others. |
| III IIII IIIII | Saturday, September 29, 2018 - 03:51 pm
Also:
I will side note that the Old layout had benefits the new layout does not. Seeing peoples activity, see weapon and ammo, as well as account assets. The news paper actually showed on the same page too which was nice. So the new layout not the same. You lack feature on it plus it is buggy at times. At least invest in ability like old layout had to compensate for what is lost. As i have not noted any such features on New layout. |
| Trout | Sunday, September 30, 2018 - 02:07 pm
Thanks for the heads-up on the jblandino clones, security council resolution launched.
"states of orlend" added to the boycott list too .. needs 10 countries or empire heads to activate the boycott, so if you want to take action add that country to your list too (boycott controls are on the trade manu in the top bar). |
| Trout | Wednesday, October 3, 2018 - 11:44 pm
The proposal has passed to General Voting .. 4 countries are voting against it right now. There are 4 jblandino clones. Hmmm |
