| Sunnyknight | Tuesday, November 17, 2015 - 12:52 am 
I'm now looking to trade on the space markets for the following:-
30,000 interceptors. 1 - 2,000,000 int missiles.
30,000 helicopters. 1 - 2,000,000 missiles.
25,000 Anti Aircraft Missile Batts. 2,000,000 missiles
35,000 Defensive Missile Batts. 2 - 3,000,000 missiles
40,000 Mid Range Missile Batts. 2 - 3,000,000 missiles
Fighter planes (maybe 36k), Precision bombers (40k) THESE ARE MAYBES! As in i may buy them dependent on the offer provided for the above and what you'll sell them for.
I've enough GC to purchase all at once, but i will state it CLEARLY here, i expect a healthy discount.
I'm looking for mobile units, but as most people won't lower their price, i'll hold off on it.
No time wasters. I'm here to do business. Reply back on here or pm me. Thank you  |
| Zentrino | Tuesday, November 17, 2015 - 02:17 am
Planning to defend against an invasion? I've heard of no rumblings to indicate this... |
| Sunnyknight | Tuesday, November 17, 2015 - 03:11 am
There's a saying:-
A sphere has 2 faces, one on the inside, one on the outside.
That is all.
Please stay on topic.
Thank you. |
| Orbiter | Tuesday, November 17, 2015 - 05:37 am
check columba, i'm aready their, for the ground stuff, if your serious, i'll invest to sell
i'll check my stock, with out checking, i'm probably with in a week or 2 ,of the ground stuff |
| Orbiter | Tuesday, November 17, 2015 - 05:37 am
clearly i had a problem with my browser
Space Center Concord
Helicopters 17,000
Helicopter Missiles 1,596,250
Interceptors 31,982
Interceptor Missiles 2,898,750
all at 450 Q ready to sell
for the other stuff, i'm not even close, but i've got maybe a 3rd of the ammo, at 390-400 Q, but no docks on canri.
it was my intention, to setup for the offensive ground on on corona,. and lepus, maybe by feburary, with MRMB, L2SMB, OAAMB, LBC, CMBM, ATMB and their ammo, but i can make adjustments, depending on if you find a seller straight away, and how much your willing to spend |
| Orbiter | Tuesday, November 17, 2015 - 05:37 am
check columba, i'm aready their, for the ground stuff, if your serious, i'll invest to sell
i'll check my stock, with out checking, i'm probably with in a week or 2 ,of the ground stuff |
| Orbiter | Tuesday, November 17, 2015 - 05:37 am
check columba, i'm aready their, for the ground stuff, if your serious, i'll invest to sell
i'll check my stock, with out checking, i'm probably with in a week or 2 ,of the ground stuff |
| Sunnyknight | Tuesday, November 17, 2015 - 11:41 am
How about we do a deal for the first two with missiles and then you'll know i'm serious?
However, i would pref if you could hit 2 million missiles with the helis?
As stated before, i'm looking for a discount. That's the most important thing to me. High volume purchase, i expect the discount
P.s. I'd prefer for speedy transactions so that i can move onto other weapon purchases. |
| Sunnyknight | Wednesday, November 18, 2015 - 01:29 am
Also looking to buy 50 cargo shuttles with 3032 missions left.
Hit me up if your selling.
Edit:
Interceptor missile requirements have been reduced to 200,000.
Everything else still stands for now. |
| Orbiter | Wednesday, November 18, 2015 - 08:03 am
my current prices are already at 25-30%, of the minimum market price, given the GC conversion
i can't really justify going lower on these, its already bare bottom |
| Sunnyknight | Wednesday, November 18, 2015 - 10:06 am
I've sent you a pm Josias.
Interceptor missiles have been purchased.
Interceptors and all other listed weapons still required.
Thank you for the quick trades. |
| Sunnyknight | Wednesday, November 18, 2015 - 04:12 pm
I have received half of my heli missiles.
1,000,000 still remain. Still open for trades. |
| CrackerJack | Wednesday, November 18, 2015 - 05:31 pm
If you would like to make some deals on Mobile Units I suggest putting up some reasonable offers at the space station. Good luck. |
| Sunnyknight | Wednesday, November 18, 2015 - 08:17 pm
Seeing as most of the people who are 'big' in the space trade have stayed quiet, i'll wait until i've got my defensive and offensive weapons / ammo.
Once that's done, i'll look to mobiles, unless someone starts bartering with me earlier |
| Orbiter | Wednesday, November 18, 2015 - 10:58 pm
interesting CJ, i'd like to here more of your view
for instance, Mobile stealth wings
2340 professional soldiers, = 1.68 GC
1430 professional officers, = 3.43 GC
has a GC base cost of 5.11 GC
Stealth Bombers are now selling for 2-2.5 GC at a max 450Q, and those are sold at a heavy discount.
even tho the SB are purchased with game cash, their is a high enough turn over on Cervus, to strengthen the base GC value of MSW, to 7.61 Base GC cost. and i haven't added LGB as a consideration
this is one way to look at it of course. but even the base professional cost of 5.11GC doesn't account for the SB/LGB, the upgrades, and the time of waiting for the units to complete
so you have an item on Cervus, with a base GC value of 7.61, being sold for 8 GC, it would seem to me, that you can't reasonably expect a lower price. and this is with out taking into consideration the LGB, and all the upgrades.
for the other units, you'll see a similar theme, Mobile units have a base GC for professionals, then require allot of upgrades.
as it stands, nothing happened at all on crucis, when players did the math and charged the 25-30 GC price building one worked out to. it wasn't until i started lowering the prices to what they are now, that any one would even talk about them. |
| Orbiter | Wednesday, November 18, 2015 - 11:23 pm
i am very happy to offer space prices for open discussion. i've made over 10K GC from space trade over the last couple years, and have, entirely from my own investments, brought life to 3 space stations
lets talk about the original request of this thread.
1 Million Helicopter missiles.
2.07M per one, at base market price
2.07T for 1M missiles at 100Q
9.315T value at 450Q, (easier than calculating 330Q and millions of upgrades.)
at 30B per GC, has a GC conversion cost of 310GC
that means if you where to swipe your card, youd have to convert 300+ GC to purchase and upgrade 1M helicopter missiles. at the base market cost. if you could manage to get 1M at low cost, your still talking 150-160GC
my current price of 0.2 per 5K at 450Q, works out to 40GC per 1 M missiles. that is about 25% the cost, at the lowest price. if you could manage to buy 1 M HM at the lowest price.
i'll offer that this isn't an exact estimate, its my understanding that the upgrading process is cheaper than the out right quality adjustment. but it still presents the fact that space prices are extremely low |
| Sunnyknight | Wednesday, November 18, 2015 - 11:52 pm
Heli missiles will be soon purchased.
Moving onto other weapons as stated.
25,000 Anti Aircraft Missile Batts. 2,000,000 missiles
35,000 Defensive Missile Batts. 2 - 3,000,000 missiles
40,000 Mid Range Missile Batts. 2 - 3,000,000 missiles
THESE ARE CRUCIAL PURCHASES.
Lets fire away folks. |
| Orbiter | Thursday, November 19, 2015 - 12:02 am
for the ammo, i'm about half way, with 400Q ish
Anti Aircraft Missiles 1,055,137 410
Missile Interceptors 2,000,853 394
Defensive Missiles 1,144,309 399
so ammo wise, i'm 2ish weeks out, for the weapons, i've got some, but i'm more in the 2-3 weeks range. additionally, i have no docks on canri, but i can set up something.
anyways, thats what i've got, maybe some one can beat me to it. |
| Sunnyknight | Thursday, November 19, 2015 - 12:04 am
Not missile interceptors.
Mid range missiles lol
Josias, let's finish the heli contract, then move onto the rest. One step at a time. |
| Sunnyknight | Thursday, November 19, 2015 - 02:40 am
Looking for 10,000 - 30,000 sc maintenance units also |
| Orbiter | Thursday, November 19, 2015 - 02:03 pm
missed that,
i've got the batts, but just shy of 2M missiles, i've been working on stock piling those, in anticipation of opening up those markets. my plan was February, but i can set up something sooner
but yeah, lets get through the HM first |
| Sunnyknight | Thursday, November 19, 2015 - 04:24 pm
SC maintenance units no longer required. |
| CrackerJack | Thursday, November 19, 2015 - 08:47 pm
Yes Orbiter, the Mobile SB wings are shockingly inexpensive. But you've seen the offers of 1 GC or less. A joke I guess. My take is that a reasonable offer doesn't go unfilled very long, that's why you don't see them. That market seems a little up in the air right now with the lack of Professionals available. I make my prices based solely on the cost of Pros. I eat the cost of weapons, ammo, and all upgrades. For that I want a small profit in GC. If you gave it away some would still ask for a discount. |
| Sunnyknight | Friday, November 20, 2015 - 02:28 pm
Mobile SB wings are shockingly inexpensive
To get 10 wings, it's 80gc.
To get 10 wings of normal Stealths, you could get away with 40gc. (2gc for stealth, 2 gc for bombs)
Yes there is a quality difference, but IS it worth the extra 40gc? |
| Orbiter | Friday, November 20, 2015 - 02:35 pm
judge for yourself
and because i don't want to start a thread to point out something silly,
atm, their are 9 unique active shuttle trade routs going, between 4 planets, 4 space stations, and 5 players.
i just thought that was cool enough to mention |
| Sunnyknight | Monday, November 23, 2015 - 12:01 pm
The heli missile contract has been completed.
Moving onto:-
***25,000 Anti Aircraft Missile Batts. 2,000,000 missiles***
35,000 Defensive Missile Batts. 2 - 3,000,000 missiles
40,000 Mid Range Missile Batts. 2 - 3,000,000 missiles
*** Utmost importance *** - Josias, i'll speak to you about this also, but anyone else able to offer this on the space market?
Batts can be put to one side if the price is steep, but missiles are crucial at the moment.
Need to gain some momentum folks! |
| Orbiter | Monday, November 23, 2015 - 03:50 pm
before you waste your money on aam, dm, and batts, let me ask you a question.
what is your intended use?
the reason i ask, even with an honest price, this can potentially be a rip off. for the same reason i don't offer navy hardware. i'll explain
when you create a unit, all the weapons and ammo, average, the weapons average, and the ammo averages. when the unit is dismantled, all the ammo retains the new average, and averages again with your stock pile.
so, if the intent is to put these into garrisons, that also contain tanks and artillery. those high rate ammo, will average with the low rate ammo of aam, and dm, bringing the average down. upgrading LAS and LTA, has the same one for one cost, but because of the high usage rate, requires many, many more upgrades, making them, cost wise, nearly useless to upgrade.
this plays true with navies. you can't expect to buy 25K NFP ammo at 450Q, and have 450 fire power, when you add in 330Q of all the other ammo...
to add one extra, indirect thing. weapons and ammo moving to units, via supplies units, will also average with the supply unit, before being added to the fighting unit, and averaging again. that means that if you have low quality supply units, they'll drag down the quality of replacements, but they'll increase the quality of replacement if the supply units are highly upgraded. this is probably the best usage of upgrading LT/LTA as the higher ammo valumns, at a high quality, will have significant effect.
if your intent is to use AAMB and DMB as a part of an LRD, with MRMB and maybe OAAMB, then these HQ defensive weapons can bring up the quality of the more expensive offensive ammo. But you encounter the same problem when you mix them with HT/HA.
just trying to make sure you get what you are trying to get. |
| Orbiter | Monday, November 23, 2015 - 04:02 pm
AAMB 30,630 413
AAM 3,357,647 370
DMB 28,100 395
DM 3,199,847 369
this is where i stand, as far as having them completed, well, the weapons are 10ish days out, but the ammo is gonna take allot longer
i've got a few tricks to speed it up, but we are still negotiating the MRM price, and if we can agree on a price, it'll likely take over a week to process that. |
| Sunnyknight | Monday, November 23, 2015 - 04:27 pm
Intended use is for c3 warfare.
When creating a unit, if both the ammo and batts are 450Q, they're made at 450Q, so i shouldn't / wouldn't have any issues, so i hope.
I do understand what you're saying though, and i appreciate the input. However, i'll be fine on that front. Most of my supply units are at 450Q anyway, so there shouldn't be much of an issue.
I'd need all of the ammo to be at 450Q.
Anti aircraft batts requirement has changed to 5,000. 450Q.
Defensive missile batts requirement has changed to 15,000. 450Q.
Mid Range missile batts remain the same. 450Q.
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Edit:-
Looking to buy 10 mobile helicopter wings and 10 interceptor wings.
Looking to spend a combined total of 85gc.
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Looking to buy 10 mobile missile defence units and 10 mobile air defense units.
Looking to spend a combined total of 135gc.
Anyone willing to trade? |
| Orbiter | Monday, November 23, 2015 - 04:32 pm
but i'll offer my initial pricing
AAMB base market price, 28.7M
2500 per sale = 71.75B * 4.5Q = 322.875B * 30B/GC = 10.76 * 1/3 (standard space discount,) 3.58GC per sale
How ever, these and DMB are usually min price, so 1.75GC per sale, 10 total sales, brings the total price to 17.5 for the batt
AAM base market price 2.22M
5000 per sale = 11.1B * 4.5Q = 49.95B * 30B/GC = 1.665GC * 1/3 space discount, 0.55 per sale, 400 sales, 220GC
DMB base market price 25.9M
2500 per sale = 64.75B * 4.5Q = 291.375 * 30B/GC = 9.71GC * 1/3 space discount = 3.23GC
but again, these guys are normally min price, so 1.6GC per 2500 DMB, 14 sales, 22.4GC
DM base market price 2.41M
5000 per sale = 12.05B * 4.5Q = 54.225B * 30B/GC = 1.8GC per 5000 DM
2-3M at 5K per sale, is 400-600 sales, is 720-1080GC
and to post the MRM
MRMB 61M
1000 per sale = 61B * 4.5Q = 274.5B * 30B/GC = 9.15GC * 1/3 standard space discount = 3.05GC per 1K MRMB
40K MRMB at 3.05 GC is 122 total sale
MRM 5.95M
2500 per sale = 14.875B * 4.5Q = 66.937B * 30B/GC = 2.23 * 1/3 space discount = 0.74GC
2M at 2500 per sale, is 800 sales, for 592 total sale.
these prices are negotiable, but consider, my price, already has a 1/3 discount added in |
| Sunnyknight | Monday, November 23, 2015 - 05:05 pm
Pm'd you josias. We'll talk again tomorrow. |
| Zentrino | Monday, November 23, 2015 - 08:33 pm
Sunny, what q are looking for on the heli and int wings? |
| Sunnyknight | Monday, November 23, 2015 - 08:49 pm
As they're mobiles, 600. Bulk buys is the only reason i'm looking for deals |
| Sunnyknight | Wednesday, November 25, 2015 - 02:13 pm
Still looking to trade via gc before i produce them myself :D
Current requirements stand at:-
5000 Anti Aircraft Missile Batts. 1,500,000 missiles
12000 Defensive Missile Batts. 2 - 2,500,000 missiles
40,000 Mid Range Missile Batts. 2 - 3,000,000 missiles
Further purchases are:-
(mobiles, listed previously)
12000 Offensive Anti Aircraft missile Batts. 2,000,000 missiles
16000 Fighter planes. 2,000,000 missiles
18000 Precision Bombers. 1,900,000 bombs
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All of the above HAVE to be at 450Q. No exceptions. Thanks
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I may be looking into attack helicopters, but i'm unsure of that yet.
That is my current shopping list. Can pay via gc, before i start producing them myself. Will take longer, but might save me the hassle of searching for people to sell them me :D |
| Orbiter | Thursday, November 26, 2015 - 06:24 am
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| Sunnyknight | Thursday, November 26, 2015 - 01:41 pm
I would conduct this trade with you Josias, but only at 150b/gc.
Yes, it is a pain to get that 150b per gc, but it's out there as the best offer available by Aries. The trades we did before, weren't so bad, but now we're moving into expensive territory.
If we did decide to trade on that basis, it would work off as:-
Example.
AAM base market price 2.22M
5000 per sale = 11.1B * 4.5Q = 49.95B / 150b/gc = 0.33GC - 1/3 space discount , 0.23 per sale, 400 sales, 92GC (i'd be happy to give 105 by renting 2 docks off you).
DMB base market price 25.9M
2500 per sale = 64.75B * 4.5Q = 291.375 / 150b/GC = 1.94gc * 1/3 space discount = 1.36gc
DM base market price 2.41M
5000 per sale = 12.05B * 4.5Q = 54.225B / 150b/GC = 0.36GC per 5000 DM (that is without the space discount, for some reason you didn't account for it?). For 3 million thats 216gc. I'd be happy to pay 230 with renting 2 docks off you.
I can understand any frustration, but it's the way of the game. Aries has increased the amount of b per gc, so either it gets countered, or maybe we deal on the above. If not, i'll have to look elsewhere unfortunately / produce myself. |
| Orbiter | Thursday, November 26, 2015 - 04:50 pm
feel free to find some one else, or do it yourself.
in fact, let me help you move on, i'm now offering EP at 210B per coin rate. that should help you along |
| Sunnyknight | Friday, November 27, 2015 - 03:43 pm
Current requirements stand at:-
Anti Aircraft Missiles. 1,500,000
Defensive Missiles. 2,000,000 missiles
40,000 Mid Range Missile Batts. 2 - 3,000,000 missiles
Further purchases are:-
(mobiles, listed previously)
12000 Offensive Anti Aircraft missile Batts. 2,000,000 missiles (if not offered soon i will start producing the missiles)
16000 Fighter planes. 2,000,000 missiles (if not offered soon i will start producing the missiles)
18000 Precision Bombers. No bombs needed
Also, i'll only buy EP if it reaches 0.35gc (if it gets that low). Don't see a profit in it at the moment |
| Sunnyknight | Friday, November 27, 2015 - 09:18 pm
Close post.
I'm getting all my weapons slowly.
Thanks all.
P.s. If i need mobiles, i'll open a new post. |
