| SuperSoldierRCP | Thursday, January 1, 2015 - 11:03 pm 
Pending bankruptcy
The country has negative assets.
Move money into the country and let the country place orders to resolve the shortages.
If the situation is not resolved the country will bankrupt in 80 months.
The country only took 720B in loans lol. They need to re look into the bankruptcy messages. Mistakes happen but getting this message for 720Billion? |
| NATURES WRATH | Friday, January 2, 2015 - 07:54 pm
If it is a mistake I hope I'll get my 46 countries back on FB. I bet XON will be looking for his 400 countries back too. But I fear this is not a mistake and this is now just how it is if you get into debt  |
| jay lu | Friday, January 2, 2015 - 11:33 pm
i believe the goal behind these moves is so that country have more cash in hand to make them more appealing to warmongers, could be wrong just my 2cent. |
| Kel | Saturday, January 3, 2015 - 01:38 am
But why should you be able to control such a large global empire that is trillions in debt? How realistic is that?
Oh wait, that is how the United States does it IRL haha. Oh well.. |
| NATURES WRATH | Saturday, January 3, 2015 - 05:56 pm
You could be right there Jay.
Your right there Kel LOL
GM what's the story? Is this not meant to be a simulation of the real world? Where is my money printing press? ;) |
| NATURES WRATH | Monday, January 5, 2015 - 01:40 pm
I'm thinking that with building this game around trying to simulate the real economy, they have realised the real world economic system is broken and completely open to manipulation and exploitation. I think they are now trying to become a model, instead of a simulation, to how the real economy should be. Which, in-turn, is forcing them to rewrite the programme so as not to go bankrupt? |
| NATURES WRATH | Monday, January 5, 2015 - 01:45 pm
I should have said......Which inturn means rewriting the programme so the game can continue  |
| Aussteigen | Tuesday, January 13, 2015 - 10:30 pm
I have negative assets (-700B) but no loans or deficit, in fact, I have income (20B est). Its strange. |
| SlavicGirl | Friday, January 16, 2015 - 11:57 am
I think they should add the option of Annexation but then again that might cause a few glitches here and there... hmm. |
| Andy | Friday, January 16, 2015 - 09:09 pm
The bankruptcy rules allow you for a long time to fix the problem.
80 months is about two real weeks.
Countries cannot have negative assets.
The materials in a country are normally worth several trillions.
If assets are negative, it means that material shortages are high.
If the total value of your materials is negative, it means you have severe shortages for a long time and negative cash or otherwise, materials would have been purchased automatically.
This does not happen overnight.
It is very very easy to make the country economy profitable. If you cannot, or you do not want to do what is needed, you can better let the country go.
When the bankruptcy procedure was updated several months ago, we have supported some large empires with a lot of cash to prevent large scale bankruptcy.
XON received a huge amount of cash into hundreds of countries to save the countries that were neglected. Many had no corporations what so ever.
But this was a one time action to prevent large scale failure.
If you have a huge empire, you need to work hard to keep it up.
We do not think, and explained it many times, that it is possible, long term, to keep an empire with more than 30 countries. |
| NATURES WRATH | Saturday, January 17, 2015 - 02:00 am
Nope...With all due respect...you changed the programme over night. I don't blame you. The writing was on the wall. But a personal message to those who had worked hard to build a sustainable empire under the previous programme would have been nice. Not that I hold any grudge or negative feeling to the change. As you have said...you bailed out those who were too big to fail...ring a bell anyone?
This is a simulation and with that everyone has to play by the rules. Unfortunately the system this simulation is based on is wide open to manipulation to the point it becomes impossible for the creator to control. Don't worry about your game assets...worry about what this tells us about the real world we live in.....
Also....is Gaz a member of W3C? Its just his name on PM comes up as w3c.Gaz. If he is then I want you to know GM that if Gaz does not come up with a reason why he holds Victory And if it turns out he is with you (w3c.Gaz) I will bring hell fire onto RoboCop. |
| Andy | Saturday, January 17, 2015 - 12:02 pm
Bankruptcy was always part of Simcountry.
At some point it was relaxed.
Long before it was changed we have announced it.
check the forum.
We have announced several times, then activated it with a two weeks time to repair and changed again and added another two weeks.
Shortly before it was really activated, we have checked who might bankrupt, especially who would have major difficulties in fixing the situation, and have added cash to many countries.
There was a message to everybody who logged in, for a long period, and mails to players who might have been affected.
One player receive much more than 1000T!
he remains the number one complainer and never does anything to fix the failing economies of his countries.
Gaz has no connection to our company. |
| Letsie | Saturday, January 17, 2015 - 12:47 pm
I think that the new rules are fine. These new changes seem fair.
If you're a half decent player you won't have a problem keeping your economy healthy.
Although i would like to +1 the idea for a money press ð |
| Andy | Saturday, January 17, 2015 - 06:52 pm
You want to print your own money?
Not a bad idea. we then need a currency per country and a currency exchange, inflation, and hyper inflation when you turn on the money press.
We even had some votes for local currencies.
It is quite complex and will require a lot of development time. I am not sure it will help the game that much.
we are now concentrating on the Apps for mobile devices and may move to natural resources after that. |
| NATURES WRATH | Saturday, January 17, 2015 - 09:12 pm
Hi Andy. I know it had been relaxed, I played the bankruptcy game Hence why I knew the writing was on the wall and why I am not bitter. I was chatting to friend and during the chat I wrote this.....'God is who is ever at the top of the Pyramid. They dictate everything you eat, breath and see. They have created a alternate reality in our minds, the sneaky sods. Do not be fooled by the Wolf in Sheep's clothing. What we see in SimCountry is a simulation of this alternate reality. And as our God changes what ever to keep the illusion alive, then so W3C has too. Its a fault of design...whether the fault was created in the illusion or its just a cause of the illusion we will never know....unless we get to the top of the pyramid and become Gods. How many rules and Laws get changed and broken everyday in the world to keep they system running? We can't blame W3C for simulating whats going on outside our front doors?'........what do you think GM? Do I have a point or am I way off track? |
| Aussteigen | Sunday, January 18, 2015 - 08:57 am
Hmm, I believe I might have phrased that incorrectly, I had -700B Cash, not assets. Despite an income that does not go below 10B. Yes I am "profitable" (no deficit), yet I have no cash... |
| Letsie | Sunday, January 18, 2015 - 03:50 pm
@ aussteigen
You're spending more then you're earning. It's as simple as that.
@ Andy
It would ad a lot of depth to the economic game. And the country welfare index. Not to mention the fact it would have on ceo's and al the extra choices they then get to make.
But it's probably to complicated for a sim to make it work. I'm really anxious to see how the app will turn out. I'm hoping for the best! |
| Andy | Monday, January 19, 2015 - 06:26 pm
You can check the App on an Androide device right now. It is at the Google store. (free).
Apple takes longer to check. Probably even longer than a week.
You can now write on the forum from the App. we are happy about that one. |
| NATURES WRATH | Friday, January 23, 2015 - 06:29 pm
So I assume there will be no compensation for loses due to the programme change? For me it was like, build your house of cards on this table and then once I have built it you take away the table...I would be happy with a 2% compensation scheme. I lost nearly 50 countries so you give me 1 country for compensation? LOL I've been in crown court today so I am still in Barrister mode ;) LOOOL Don't worry. I'm not a Barrister....I just had to become one for the day because my defence team was shit and I sacked them LOL |
