| xFara | Friday, November 1, 2013 - 06:05 am 
can i attack with more than 400 fighters at a time?
i see that maximum number to attack with at one time is 240 or 400 (if attack and bombing wing is selected and maxed on fighters)
so anyway that i can increase it to minimise damages from interceptors? |
| Space313 | Friday, November 1, 2013 - 06:31 am
Not really, nothing can go above 400 as far as wings. However, you can increase quality, but I am frankly to tired and lazy to tell you but here.
Go to Army tab on top > Military Units > Upgrade Fighting levels, then set them all to 450, this will raise their quality. The higher the quality the harder it is to destroy them. |
| asurfaholic | Friday, November 1, 2013 - 07:55 pm
^ that is important...
But you should also note that fighters are incredibly weak against defense interceptors. You should make your attack/bomb wings with some precision bombers in there as well. I find using 150 PB / the rest FP is a good combo. Only attacking when fighting level is at least 300 will keep your losses to a minimum. I typically loose around 150 bombers per country taken. Which is nothing compared to the profits of raiding.
The interceptors will attack the bombers first in battle, and the bombers hold their weight much better, while your fighters are hurting the interceptors. You should only attack a town or a county when clearing the defenses of a country, this ensures only one wing of interceptors respond. Keep attacking the town/county until all interceptors have stopped responding. |
| RAM | Saturday, November 2, 2013 - 06:35 am
oh thnx space313 , i will make sure to raise qlty
@asurfaholic , so instead of attacking each interceptor wing 1 by 1 , i attack a city/county to minimise losses as only 1 interceptor wing responds right? |
| RAM | Saturday, November 2, 2013 - 06:39 am
oh and can i use drones as meatshield for FP instead as theyre a bit cheaper? i know they will be less effective but do they take the damage first anyway? |
| Space313 | Saturday, November 2, 2013 - 06:45 am
I believe so, but Bombers are much more effective and save you more money in the process. |
| asurfaholic | Saturday, November 2, 2013 - 02:20 pm
@asurfaholic , so instead of attacking each interceptor wing 1 by 1 , i attack a city/county to minimise losses as only 1 interceptor wing responds right?
Yes
And, for what its worth, I havent tried this method, but supposedly using Offensive AA missile batteries to clear the air defense is even cheaper,
I have always used air wings to do the job, because to me it is plenty cheap and is very simple. I only loose about 150 precision bombers per war, which about 80B in cost, plus some ammo, which is pretty slim. That 80B is covered just in the raw materials that I transfer to my country. Plus you get the 2.3T cash at WL3, and another 3-500B in closed corps. |
| Alterd Carbon | Saturday, November 2, 2013 - 10:15 pm
asurfaholic I gave you the correct way to kill a c3 yesterday it is in your best intrest to at least follow it once, and see your results. I'm not sending you on a wild goose chase buying stuff you don't need. Just buy what I suggested at 330Q and try it out. |
| thewhy | Saturday, November 2, 2013 - 11:05 pm
ground style is cheaper especially since c3s only have about 3 helo wings while if you use airforce you will need to fight through about 10 int wings at wl3..... do bombers still work as shields? i thought the GM patched that |
| asurfaholic | Sunday, November 3, 2013 - 12:08 am
@Altered.
I am definitely gearing up to try it. I have began moving my enterprise in the direction of supplying the chunk of the ammo I will need. I am DEFINITELY going to give it a shot and see how effective it is.
@everyone else who sent me messages angry that I shared this
I am giving basic help, this isn't the best or most effective method, and it certainly won't win a PVP war, but come-on. This is a complex game, and it is easy to be overwhelmed by it. The guy asked a question, and I'm trying to help him a little. |
| RAM | Sunday, November 3, 2013 - 08:16 am
totally agree with asurfaholic , sharing is caring
wininng a pvp war surely takes alot more strategies and tricks than a strategy to minimise airforce losses, nothing to worry about lads
i have tried it and its really effective, bombers perform very effectively as a shield for FP to rock those interceptors. |
| RAM | Sunday, November 3, 2013 - 08:19 am
i may try ground style with HA/MRMB/OAAMB , but airforce method seems more simple and less time consuming , perhaps more expensive but still cost effective to a large extent |
| Erin | Tuesday, November 5, 2013 - 04:03 am
Would a mobile anti airforce division near the city your attacking help? The counter attack of interceptors should trigger the mobile unit into joining the attack .. which would give you both a numbers advantage and a quality advantage minimizing losses drastically as a huge chunk of interceptors would be dead before they fired too many shots.
Im still building up to the strategy i plan on trying and am at lvl 0 so just newbie question here. |
| thewhy | Tuesday, November 5, 2013 - 04:13 am
nice to see a newb thinking for once.... as far as i know theres no double response function... you attack and the defense responds but your defense (mobile anti airforce division) will not respond to the defense |
| Erin | Tuesday, November 5, 2013 - 04:24 am
Just to clarify ... If i attack a city with my mostly fighter wing with a couple bombers. The city will defend. Would the interceptor attack not be a different attack all together and not part of the city defense? If so than the mobile anti airforce division would be assisting in Defending the attack bomber wing not assisting in the city attack? Or does the game consider the interceptor response as part of the city defense response?
Sorry to be redundant here but this clarification is rather important as my simple mind sometimes needs things spelled out. |
| thewhy | Wednesday, November 6, 2013 - 09:29 pm
when you attack a city the garrison of the city responds obviously... according to the war engine up to 3 int or helo wings can respond aswell... 1 from your nation and 2 from fedmates the game says the most effective wings respond meaning quality, numbers and ammo i believe.... along with this up to 2 mobile units/land defense can respond aswell i believe but i dont know much about that as i am a free player and i cant get mobiles...... if your asking again if you'r mobile units will attack an interceptor response from the nation you are attacking the answer i believe is no... the interceptor and garrison response occur at the same time and work together to stop your attack |
| Erin | Thursday, November 7, 2013 - 01:16 am
Yeh i tried it yesterday ... rather disappointing it would make mobile units far more useful. As it is now they seem to be smaller units useless on their own and only good to back up defenses but nobody really attacks anyone unless its a mismatch anyway.. Granted i say this as i can not be attacked but with that id be slaughtered. Dont have the experience or army yet. Mobile units seem great to help a friend being attacked with out having to micro manage it. The smaller numbers are not countered by the higher max Quality so the only useful way to use them is in conjunction with a full force. |
| thewhy | Thursday, November 7, 2013 - 01:21 am
they are good for defense... add another element other then your air d that can cause more casualties for anyone attacking you.... what planet you on? |
| Erin | Thursday, November 7, 2013 - 01:27 am
i play on LU spent some coins to get a running start now trying to learn what im actually doing. |
| Erin | Thursday, November 7, 2013 - 01:27 am
heh...might have over spent a bit.. |
