| scagweed2 | Monday, April 15, 2013 - 06:49 pm 
I've created about 5 or 6 so far and haven't got a prompt saying I've created the maximum amount, just wondering how many cause I don't want to get banned, I'll close the remaining accounts if I've gone over. Is it 15 accounts ? |
| SuperSoldierRCP | Monday, April 15, 2013 - 07:40 pm
Ban him, And all his accounts |
| scagweed2 | Monday, April 15, 2013 - 10:05 pm
Why? |
| Crafty | Monday, April 15, 2013 - 10:06 pm
They dont care how many accounts you have scags. Just go with it, seems everybody else does. Just don't advertise the fact. |
| scagweed2 | Monday, April 15, 2013 - 10:52 pm
I read somewhere that there was a limit per IP address, oh well, I guess I'll just keep building until I get a message saying I've reached the limit, thanks, and you guys let me know if you need anything |
| Christos | Monday, April 15, 2013 - 11:41 pm
This is so surreal lol  )) |
| Xbox | Tuesday, April 16, 2013 - 12:08 am
BAN THIS GUY! |
| Globbo | Tuesday, April 16, 2013 - 01:11 am
I looked up the what the TOS(Documentation -> Terms and Conditions) said about multiplaying. As far as can tell, it doesn't say anything. However, it is a long document and I may have overlooked it.
On the other side, the FAQ contains a point about multiplaying and states that very clearly that "Players can have only one account in the game."
It would have been better if the TOS also included this. |
| Laguna | Tuesday, April 16, 2013 - 11:49 am
I'm pretty sure it is there, because I've quoted that part before. |
| darcus | Tuesday, April 16, 2013 - 09:57 pm
You are not fun man you have build 3 countries around my, on GR, i use it to fight with CCC around me, before there was 6 CCC countries now 3 free 
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| SapphireOrange | Friday, April 26, 2013 - 08:42 pm
It seems to me that if you have multiple accounts -and are buying GCs on all accounts - sounds like a paying customer to me.
Still - I don't see how one can keep track of more than one... |
| Pink panther | Friday, April 26, 2013 - 11:53 pm
Accounts cost money, if your going to use them. WASTE OF TIME AND MONEY.
Good Luck Fool.
Rob |
| rahmat.alfahmi | Saturday, April 27, 2013 - 06:12 pm
Having too much account would make you can not focus and having no fun. |
| darcus | Saturday, April 27, 2013 - 08:29 pm
scagweed2
could you please relocate your countries on FB on your scagweed3 account you are blocking me from raiding. If you use multi account please use them so that you don't distract another players how play fair.
The region is empty and there is enough room for everyone so there is no need to block me (i have to airlift my raiding units ).
Only if this multis have purpose to block players
Some of my neighbours :
scagweed11
scagweed3679
scagweed03
i think i should report this |
| SuperSoldierRCP | Sunday, April 28, 2013 - 12:43 pm
ive noticed alot of new players are mult, The GM needs to enforce some policies |
| Pink panther | Sunday, April 28, 2013 - 09:36 pm
It should not be a problem. Treat the countries like any other. Remember unless they pay, they can only support there empire/ friends.
Rob |
| SuperSoldierRCP | Wednesday, May 1, 2013 - 06:44 am
Not true pink.
I try to make friends educate new players. Whats to stop me from making a new account and trying to get into my enemies fed and spying?
If you wish to have someone else do its fine but the moment you have mult accounts its a problem.
It creates a lack of trust and no one will ally with new players because they might fear a mult.
Without the older players willing to educate the new guys they will stagnant and this is what the GM has been trying to prevent for some time.
Either the GM needs to do 1 of 2 possible ideas.
Ban mults period. Give them a warning and allow 1 account only.
----OR----
allow mult accounts but under the main page of either they're nation or where easily visable have a tab that says shared IP. Yes/NO
Yes would mean mult accounts from that registed IP address.
No would me only 1 account is registered.
It wouldn't invade anyone privacy but allow us to see who has mult accounts and who doesnt |
| Jennifer | Wednesday, May 1, 2013 - 01:20 pm
What of households with two people that play, but share a computer?? |
| drys0013 | Wednesday, May 1, 2013 - 03:10 pm
I've had a response from the Game Master on this issue and they said they allow multis for limited time or til they find them. They allow you to make a second account, because they understand that some make mistakes in game and create a second account. In that case, they are allow some grace, but they do not allow multis in the technical term. GM says most that create 2 accounts, usually only use the one in long term. Should not penalize a family playing though, using the same Internet connection, or friends near each other. There IP would be the same, so it makes it difficult to track them all. Multis should not be allowed in the term of the same person with 5 accounts. GM was specifically talking of ones with 2 accounts, who wanted to change planets or messed up their first. We have seen this issue too much with ones who abuse it. I agree with some grace for those types, but not for people who use their multis for purposes that are only meant to deceive and cause problems. Those should be banned and deleted. |
| Andy | Wednesday, May 1, 2013 - 03:20 pm
Did we respond in this way?
It sounds quite reasonable but it is not our response. not in the past year or so.
we know when an IP address is used by one or more people. maybe not in the first days but we have tools to find out in time.
we had a few requests for two family members from the same IP number. |
| Pink panther | Wednesday, May 1, 2013 - 06:02 pm
Do what I did, Take over countries by the country you believe may be a second account. Now he has a choice, stay and watch, pay or play, leave,
or war with me.
Rob |
| Josias | Wednesday, May 1, 2013 - 06:19 pm
its silly to really think that their is no multi-problem, which is what W3C would have you believe.
it is a real problem
some players do have many accounts
and the blind eye, does allow them to keep going
their is little that is ever done about it, and complaining, does no good
but hey, as long as the rest of us pay our share, by swiping our card, to do what we could do a year ago w/o, then its a win/win for the GM. |
| LilTit | Wednesday, May 1, 2013 - 10:05 pm
What (Pink Panther) Rob said above is what Rob (Blueserpent) used to say. Dec on all the accounts you think are multi accounts. One person can't play all 10 accounts at once. ha ha ha Well........unless there are a group of players who are all into each others' accounts. Well, I think we've all done that before!
I have come to believe that the entire foundation of this game is based on chaos, it is basically one big mind f--k. I have tried to figure it out, but I am leaning towards Chiwoo's "Roving Eye" concept. lmao I mean I think the "Roving Eye" are a group of players who have played this game for years, probably since its beginnings, a game clique of sorts. This is "their" game, and all the rest of us are poor fools for even trying. lol |
| Pink panther | Thursday, May 2, 2013 - 09:38 am
You Nailed it.
Rob |
| LilTit | Thursday, May 2, 2013 - 07:32 pm
I know I have. *winks |
| Pink panther | Thursday, May 2, 2013 - 08:19 pm
That's why were here. Too remove the cancer!
Rob |
| LilTit | Thursday, May 2, 2013 - 11:57 pm
Just think of me as a microwave, baby......... pure radiation!!! I affectively get people all hot and bothered. I would also rather like to nuke some peeps! :P
Radiantly me,
Lorelei
Muaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahs! |
| Roving EYE | Friday, May 3, 2013 - 01:11 am
groovy! |
| drys0013 | Friday, May 3, 2013 - 01:42 am
Yes, Andy. I was told that. General email to the GM email address. It was almost 9-12 mos ago.
in short:
it was long term no, but in a short term yes.
It did say they address them too.
It just stated people were given some liberty for a small amount of time. In case of mistakes.
If that has changed then cool.
Rob, Pink panther, & Lorelei defiantly a great way to fix that issue ourselves!
Maybe not a nuke, but I support the idea of flushing them out. I would say that could be considered an act of war, in my book. |
| Philipp Bauer | Friday, May 3, 2013 - 01:50 am
I share my computer with my fiancée, which has a country in Kebir Blue. |
| Pink panther | Friday, May 3, 2013 - 02:49 am
War is not always the answer. But it works.
Rob |
| LilTit | Friday, May 3, 2013 - 03:43 am
Throwing shoes works for me. |
| Pink panther | Friday, May 3, 2013 - 06:17 am
Only if I'm mad, will I trow shoes. And not my nice ones, only the Obama ones. |
| Pink panther | Friday, May 3, 2013 - 06:23 am
Sorry Supper S I did not read your post, of coarse as all ways you are right. It is a problem, but one we must live with. You do things right. You will come off on top like all good people do.
Rob |
| Pink panther | Friday, May 3, 2013 - 06:43 am
Hey roving eye, perhaps you need a new sign. seeing that Neddity, Kildare and other players use the same sign. I't might be better to get a way from the mess it might bring.
Rob |
| Jark Valiga | Saturday, May 4, 2013 - 04:07 pm
just some ideas from other games on how to combat multi player accounts
1) dont allow interaction between countries (Aid) for a certain period of time so people cant just quick make an account and start sending assets to their main
2) make a requirement that only stronger countries can send aid this will discourage multi playing as people will actually have to build up a country first
3) actually enforce the rule send a message to everyone to close multi accounts and then start canceling i think multi accounts are the single biggest detriment to the game but i dont fault people who use them because the rule is very unclear because its not enforced and because you cant actually send country to country aid
4) also have a shared IP option
5) You could also give the SC a use so that they have to vet every players aid transfer checks IPs and what not i really hope the GM works on this kind of stuff |
| darcus | Saturday, May 4, 2013 - 07:22 pm
Add icon somewhere to show does user share IP with someone else just yes/no you don't have to show with who user share IP. |
| Andy | Tuesday, May 7, 2013 - 03:51 pm
In the past , there were possibilities to send easy aid from one acount to another and we have found a lot of fraud, following that trail.
we also have tools that give us a lot of data on multiplaying or transfers of assets..
we have removed many such accounts, also very recently, we get reports and follow them.
we are however not trigger happy as errors made by us are hard to repair. we want to be sure.
tell me how you move 10T from one account to another? it is not very easy. not by selling countries back and forth, and not through "External Transactions".
multies can setup some corporations, contracts etc. you don't need a second account, you can do it in the empire and it is much easier to transfer assets. |
| Jark Valiga | Tuesday, May 7, 2013 - 06:38 pm
Not if your a free player also multi accounts are helpful for cooperative defense but there's not that much war anyways |
| LilTit | Wednesday, May 8, 2013 - 12:13 am
Dear Andrew,
Multi accounts are used for other reasons too and not just for the transfer of assets between accounts. Some players create "other" accounts to create chaos and havoc in the game...to give a false impression of "power" or "alliances" that they have. We saw that with Hezzy and the NLUO.......didn't we???
Silly? Yes, but an effective tool for I know of at least one or two players who do this and have gotten away with it. This game is more than just a game to them, and they ARE technically savvy to get past your searches and what you have in place for finding multi account players.
The "free" account option was like a BONUS day for the game abusers when that started. Now they don't have to pay money to do it. And you have players like Ian Cameraon who have different accounts, one in two different worlds. Does the multi account rule not apply to free accounts as well?
This is the same reason why these players name change in chat, use external clients to come in with three or four different names at once. Chaos......control in the game. Perceptions are everything. It really is quite interesting what some people do for the sake of a game or "power" in a game. And, I'm the one called crazy???? lol :S
Being able to transfer assets from an account to another was such a good thing, but a few bad apples in the game ruined that for us. Seems like these "bad apples" have brought on a lot of changes we don't like. And then they are the ones screaming and complaining on the forums, getting banned.....because the changes put a stumbling block into their form of bad play.
It was stated in a conversation last night between two players. A suggestion that some of the changes may be done to get rid of the "veteran" players. Perhaps it is not the game owners' intention to get rid of the "player", per se, but the bad behavior....eh? Put it into its REAL perspective.
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| WildStallion | Wednesday, May 8, 2013 - 12:23 am
@ LilTit hopefully your comments will be taken on board so Veteran players like yourself, Roving Eye, Crafty etc, can enjoy the game more without having to put up with "crap" from certain players or comments made towards you by people in chat which I have noticed has been the case over the last week or so. Maybe Andy should get ALL players NEW and OLD to confirm their bank card details etc so that each account can be confirmed that it IS NOT a Multiplayer. I wouldn't have a problem doing that and I don't think other players would if they are genuine, what do you think? |
| Jark Valiga | Wednesday, May 8, 2013 - 01:05 am
what's a bank? don't go hating free players ..... I'm a dedicated free player been here for probably over a year..... this game needs more players more dedicated players to drown out the affect of multis |
| LilTit | Wednesday, May 8, 2013 - 01:29 am
Tbone, I don't hate free players at all. I have stood up for them consistently when the older players try to smack them down for being naught in the game. I think free or paid are important to the game. My comment above was only that those players who abuse the game use free accounts to foster their bad game play by creating chaos and a false sense of power in the game. It's like everything else in the game that was great and has gotten taken away. They are the cause why the game has changed, why we must all suffer.
As to your post Wildstallion, I wish the game could go back to the way it was. I doubt it will, though. I KNOW the source of the game's problems. I've communicated this to the Gamemaster. They have made some moves to stop some of the nonsense, but I see the players around who ARE the problem, so I wonder. So the message it sends to me.....hey no holds bar!!! Do what you want here......doesn't matter if customers are leaving.
*shakes head
I'm on my way out, though. So it really isn't worth my fight any more. If the game is important to all of you, rally together and take care of the players who are the problems. |
