| SuperSoldierRCP | Wednesday, February 27, 2013 - 05:48 am 
Ive tried selling goods again and i keep getting a very low amount and its kind depressing. Im wondering if anyone else has had this issue?
I know andy said very little players buy high Quility but that donest mean i should get paid less.
Currently im sitting on 242M units of power @ 272Q im looking to sell for 30T but im wondering if ill even get that?
Has anyone else had else problems? Also Andy whats being done to help players who have this Higher Q? Seems unfair i spend time and alot of assests to make these goods only to get a LOWER income then what i spent? Is there a fix or solution to give players the income they shoudl rightly recieve?
Seems unfair i spend 20T for goods i plan to make 30T on only to make less then what i spend. |
| Arccuk | Wednesday, February 27, 2013 - 07:30 am
I have a similar problem when selling HQ goods, although not that quantity! |
| Crafty | Wednesday, February 27, 2013 - 05:14 pm
So why do you guys do it then, if you know you wont get your money back? Sheesh, it's not rocket science. Use the world market and make a profit for your investment by selling direct from your producing corps. |
| Arccuk | Wednesday, February 27, 2013 - 07:21 pm
Thanks for your input again crafty. Please check previous posts to find out why and how I mitigate the problem. |
| SuperSoldierRCP | Wednesday, February 27, 2013 - 07:29 pm
my problem crafty is I have and own nuclear power so I'm either selling or buying depending on the market.
Seems unfair the corps sell there 270Q goods with no issue but when my CEO sells them from stock the MAGICLLY lose value |
| Aries | Wednesday, February 27, 2013 - 07:35 pm
As with many other things in this game, I think we can only adapt. I produce nuclear power but let my corps sell to the market (regardless of market price). When prices are low, I buy direct from the market at low quality which allows me to use for my own consumption or sell back as electric power without getting hit with the quality selling issue. |
| Arccuk | Wednesday, February 27, 2013 - 07:56 pm
Exactly that Aries, buy low quality to dilute the higher quality held in stock. That's the workaround.
I still have to agree with SuperSoldier, and would do so even if I didn't share a similar problem from time to time.
There shouldn't be a price reduction of goods offered to the market other than that set in the trade strats. If there is no demand for that quality of goods then the player should have the final decision if they wish to sell for a lower price or not. The goods don't have to be sold! |
| Aries | Wednesday, February 27, 2013 - 08:04 pm
In that scenario, the goods would never sell. The is no reason to have high quality power. The highest quality the market will typically need is 180 or so. |
| SuperSoldierRCP | Wednesday, February 27, 2013 - 08:17 pm
if I offer the goods and I sell only 1M units a month I'd rather wait 242months to get what I deserve rather then get all my money at once and get less then what I paid to make it |
| Arccuk | Wednesday, February 27, 2013 - 09:24 pm
yep, that is true Aries. I try not to buy power at anything but 120 but that is not always possible, dependent on corp type etc. so in effect I worsen the problem in that particular market.
However I do buy at highest quality for many products, so possibly "improve" the situation in those markets.
The problem is that there is no real indication within the game that there is or isn't a demand for any product at high (or low) quality other than if they sell or not. If the product is sold at a lower price than that set in the trade strats without the players consent then even that indication is removed from the player.
In short, we need to wet a finger and stick it in the air to determine the quality we THINK the market requires based on only what we know from our own play style or those around us we choose to look at.
It could and should be better, but I am patient and I am sure it will be addressed eventually.
/holds breath, crosses fingers, rubs rabbit foot |
| Crafty | Wednesday, February 27, 2013 - 11:17 pm
The GM has hinted a couple of times at the best quality to produce. But then it seems a lot of people like to ignore them in many things and complain when it doesnt work right for them. |
| Arccuk | Thursday, February 28, 2013 - 07:02 am
I think the only complaint here is that the trading system isn't working as the documentation explains.
You are right though, I do sometimes test if what the GM say is true or not and for the most part it is. However in this case, no mention has been made as to why selling manually to the market will return less than selling automatically from the corp itself. If I remember correctly there has only been a denial that it happens and that trade figures for an indeterminate amount of time need to be looked at in order to "find" the true amount paid. |
| Crafty | Thursday, February 28, 2013 - 03:42 pm
And it's absolutely right of you to question everything, try it for yourself.
I dont know why these sales work different but I have a couple of ideas. The best thing to me would be if it isnt working for me, don't do it. This isn't by any means the first time SS has commented about this situation. Would you keep poking yourself in the eye when you realised it hurt the first time? |
| SuperSoldierRCP | Thursday, February 28, 2013 - 07:33 pm
The problem Crafty is there is 242M units of power 16M units = 1T... At market costs with Q i should get around 40T which i wont be getting. My problem is i have higher Q power, weapons, and various other goods. Ive spend T's iof not hunderds of T in the past for these "HIGH" Q goods only now to have the limits reduced and for me to gain LESS then what i even paid for. This isnt fair no should it be allow. If i sell my goods and it take a long time to sell so be it but i SHOULD get what i paid for period |
| Crafty | Thursday, February 28, 2013 - 07:37 pm
Trying not to be too sarcastic super..
Try selling them in space or on DT for GC. Isn't that what we are expected to do now? |
| SuperSoldierRCP | Thursday, February 28, 2013 - 07:41 pm
Power can only be sold on DT and i tried that but Q isnt taken into effect |
