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Wednesday, November 21, 2012 - 05:22 am  The LU World government Legislature is a tri-cameral institution. It consists of the Committee of Joint Chiefs of staff of Federations of Regions. The LU Security Council, and the Committee of Common Market Founders. There are 85 regions on Little Upsilon. There would be a federation who represents each region. There will be 1 federation representing multiple regions. This makes for politics. Here is how legislation would work. If someone in a region wants to start a war of aggression as opposed to a war of empire building, that nation in that region would have to go to the federation chairman of the region, and he would have a vote in the fed. If passed the chairman would bring it to the Joint chiefs for a proposal, and the Majority leader would bring that proposal to the floor for debate, and a vote. If passed it would be approved by the Secretary of State and Secretary General, and then that nation could have a war of aggression with the full support of the LU world government. This is judt general procedure. As people learn how to move through the government, it will get easier to make things happen. I will explain the role of the security council once we learn how the uniting of the federations works. Please give feed back no matter how long you have been playing the game.. If the world of Little Upsilon is not interested in this, then I will stop, and just deal with my own federation, and region. I just want to help the game. I have spent a lot of time building this government to work with the game as well as be democratic,so if nobody cares to move forward, then I will shut it down, or at least set up legislation to close the government because there are many great empires who are involved in the LU world government.
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| Wednesday, November 21, 2012 - 06:27 pm Please Little Upsilon citizens give feedback. I am going to block King Hezekiah's attempt to shut down this government. We worked to hard to build this social network. It is functioning and many newly established nations are reading the forums, and are inboxing me like crazy. It has already begun. There are 14 members who have offically joined the government. The executive administration is fully staffed, and the legislative Branch is coming together. Please Help me stop King Hezekiah.
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| Wednesday, November 21, 2012 - 06:31 pm King Hezekiah, you must reconsider your actions. I will bring you up on charges for treason!! If you are tired of managing this government resign, and allow another be the Secretary General, and manage the government. I am the Chief Justice of the LU International criminal court, and I will use my power to bring you down if you do anything hasty Hezekiah.
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| Wednesday, November 21, 2012 - 06:34 pm why would i want to ask permission to do something from a group of people probably couldn't stop me anyways?
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| Wednesday, November 21, 2012 - 06:35 pm I can not believe you 2 are plotting against me. I brought both of you into the game and the government. I showed you how to play and use the government. I am not trying to shut the government down. I am just trying to get people to say yeah or nay if they want this government.
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| Wednesday, November 21, 2012 - 06:42 pm To answer your question, Orbiter. If we all who love the game agree to go through these procedures, and deal with this government, then it is not asking permission. It is following procedure, which builds politics. The whole reason I joined the government is for the interaction, and international politics. A structure of international politics this is organized, and civil, not this law of the jungle we have now in LU. It is every man for themselves really. The feds mean nothing, or the common markets, or the security council means nothing right now. But through this government, all of them have meaning. SO, to Hezekiah, like I said. You set this government up true. But you are not going to shut it down. If you want to settle this on the battle field we can, but prefer to do this democratically.
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| Wednesday, November 21, 2012 - 06:49 pm King Hez, I have been very loyal to you. I have done my job as the Secretary of LU Security, and done it very well I may add. Through me doing my job as Secretary of Lu Security, nations feel confident in getting the monetary assistance that they need when there is a natural disaster, or nuclear war etc. I lobbied the Security Council to give a nation developmental aid 2 Trillion, and that nation is now one of our fedmates. Our federation controls the Decambra region, and the nations of that region are secure in that fact, and do not rebel against that fact. He have actually stop many noobs from trying to buy into the game just to get nukes to cause war. I did that personally 3 times. SO, I know how to use the government, Hez, and I will not allow you to close it either. I am with Mohamar on this. I don't want to leave your fed, nor do I want to go t war with you. I do have a premium account, now and I am not afraid to use the influence I have gotten to use it. But let us call a general assembly, and just ask the people of LU.
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| Wednesday, November 21, 2012 - 06:52 pm look you guys. I am sorry. I will just back off. I will call a general assembly, and hope that people will show up. People of LU like to use the SC chat, so we might have the assembly there instead of the GA on the site. Yall don't have to write these books to me or have to threaten me. I respect both of your authorities. I will yield.
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| Wednesday, November 21, 2012 - 07:08 pm Hezekiah, I just want you to know that I am running against you for fed Chairman in your coming election. Nothing personal. I thought I would just announce it here. Hezkiah, please just finish the site, and once it is finished people will join. we got 14 members, and 8 of them are very large empires. 2 of them are hall of fame Presidents. Forgive me for the "BOOK" Hezekiah, I just want to speak all I have to say in one post as opposed to making many mini posts.
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| Wednesday, November 21, 2012 - 07:09 pm i think king hezekiah is being completely reasonable exhibting proper respect for democratic process on LU and encouraging dicussion
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| Wednesday, November 21, 2012 - 07:11 pm That is fine Brother Leader Gaddafi. You have that right. It is 20 LU years away. I just don't know why you guys got so aggressive. My goodness.
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| Wednesday, November 21, 2012 - 07:11 pm Thank you Mr. T. I appreciate that.
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| Wednesday, November 21, 2012 - 07:13 pm Hezekiah Said: so if nobody cares to move forward, then I will shut it down, or at least set up legislation to close the government because there are many great empires who are involved in the LU world government.
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| Wednesday, November 21, 2012 - 07:14 pm This is why I was aggressive. You do not threaten to shut the government down. This is Treason!!!!
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| Wednesday, November 21, 2012 - 07:15 pm It is treason? Is that in the constitution?
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| Wednesday, November 21, 2012 - 07:24 pm I am sure it is in the Constitution, but if it is not, you being our representative in the Decambra must bring up this CJCS Legislation.
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| Wednesday, November 21, 2012 - 08:03 pm I will do it, but we are not fully operational on the Legislative side. out of the 85 regions we have 13 Expansionist seats, and 9 Isolationists seats. We have 14 regions with no representation, and I have continents yet to do. I have not started setting up the committee of Common Market founders yet. The LU Security Council page is completed. It won't take long to finish before we can start passing laws, and making moves.
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| Wednesday, November 21, 2012 - 08:50 pm "This is like deja vu all over again" Yogi Berra
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| Wednesday, November 21, 2012 - 09:44 pm Dun worry, Hezzy, iff'n they threaten YOU, they threaten ME. Want me to kill them all????? I'll do it! I've been lookin for an excuse to throw shoes at Orbiter for YEARS!!! ha ha ha ha ha And iff'n I recall, King Herod may already be on my list!!! Gaddaffi, if I even hear another whisper about you bringing Hezzy up on treason, you best run for your life!!! I will unleash unholy drama upon thy head! Be warned. Got Drama? Yours truly, Lorelei
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| Thursday, November 22, 2012 - 11:54 pm Schadenfreude all over this thread... lol I am sorry they feel you have betrayed them Hezekiah...
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| Thursday, November 22, 2012 - 11:57 pm Thank you Kiss of Death. I appreciate your friendship. I don't think they are going to do anything. I think they just misunderstood me. I appreciate the love.
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| Thursday, November 22, 2012 - 11:58 pm Wilhelm I appreciate your concern as well. You guys just let me know that I am among friends. I thank you.
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| Friday, November 23, 2012 - 05:12 am This belongs in the LU forum.
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| Friday, November 23, 2012 - 05:23 am Yes... I really get tired of seeing this in the main forums.
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| Friday, November 23, 2012 - 05:38 am Nobody looks at any other forum.
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| Friday, November 23, 2012 - 05:39 am Mr. Caesari, If you are tired of seeing it, don't log in. It's real simple.
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| Friday, November 23, 2012 - 05:44 am I come to the MAIN forum for things that pertain to all worlds- general tips and such. NOT to hear about LU's pretend government in every other thread.
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| Friday, November 23, 2012 - 05:59 am That is a lie. I regularly check the forums regarding the worlds that I inhabit so does everyone that posts on those forums.
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| Friday, November 23, 2012 - 08:03 pm It belongs in the general forum. The intent behind King's organization, is to draw players in from LU and possibly other worlds to participate on Little Upsilon by posting events and developments in the general forum. He is well within his rights to do this. What gives any of you the right to dictate what, where, and why someone can post where you approve? If you are tired of it, stop clicking on the thread. If you're an adult and click it mistakenly, you hit the back button, and relieve yourself of the inconvenience. If we start down this line, why is there not any admonishing done when players ask newbie questions on the general forum when there is a clear forum marked "Beginners" and another marked "Help"? Neither of you are moderators Mizore and/or Caesari. Pretending to fill the role isn't necessary. Furthermore, King Hezekiah is doing more to promote participation, interaction, and cooperation between players to a level that does not currently exist. What are you doing, other than complaining about nothing? Don't knock him down, he's playing the game and enjoying the forum, there is nothing wrong with that.
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| Friday, November 23, 2012 - 10:12 pm SweetPea, to some extent, you are right. But multiple threads about a plethora of different topics on the subject should be contained to the world forum, as it does not effect anyone who is not in LU. One thread I think is fine; I actually like the idea of what he is doing. However, as I have already said, we have world forums for places like this. People can and do check their world forums, so having every thread about this government in the General is quite frankly irritating. I suggest, Hezekiah, that you begin posting these things in your world forum, and keep a single thread in the general forum with a log of what is happening and updates so people not in your world that want to follow it may. And the rest of the forum goers don't have to wade through it.
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| Saturday, November 24, 2012 - 02:15 am Respectfully speaking Caesari, No one here pays you to think. Suggestions are for the weak. Blunt force trauma gets the point across with a bit more urgency. Hezekiah, enjoy the forum as you please until a moderator says otherwise. Your posts are relevant and stimulating to the players who actually log on to enjoy the game.
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| Saturday, November 24, 2012 - 09:24 am Wendy is right, and I thank her for coming to my defense. Most people come to the general forum first This is why I posted it here. Hopefully sometime soon all nations of LU will come together in this gov to learn from each other how to play the game, and have international politics at the same time making relavant the federations, common markets, and security council as back in the days of CIS, and Valdeh, I can't remember the name of the fed, but it was very organized. But now we can move past the federations into making the feds be our security for the regions of LU. Thanks again wendy. much love.
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| Saturday, November 24, 2012 - 01:00 pm I like the communication in this thread but i must say the FUNNIEST part was Josias comment "why would i want to ask permission to do something from a group of people probably couldn't stop me anyways?" IDK but i laughed kinda hard
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| Saturday, November 24, 2012 - 06:27 pm Wendy. It's spam. Nothing more, nothing less. My moderation would have all but one LU thread deleted.
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| Sunday, November 25, 2012 - 12:32 am To an extent i agree with crafty. I do think he has the right to post in the general(trying to bring players to LU). But a new thread a week is unnecessary. Just bump the original and add an update to the end
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| Sunday, November 25, 2012 - 12:50 am Perhaps when any of us becomes a moderator our opinions will matter. These comments probably demonstrate why we haven't been selected to perform the duty. Until then Crafty, respectfully we can agree to disagree. And on the topic of spam, none of these comments have anything to do with the thread topic. Complaining on the board in this thread is spam. We have a Problems section for that, and anyone who really feels like King Hezekiah is doing anything wrong, you know how to contact the gamemaster.
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| Sunday, November 25, 2012 - 04:31 am I think King Hezekiah has some good ideas for the lack of politics in the game. Why doesn't everyone just use this forum to discuss politics and virtual current affairs and just use this chat on Sim Country. That way there's much more social interaction in the game with maximum participation of players. There's no need for lots of federations. Lord Lee
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| Sunday, November 25, 2012 - 04:56 am Why even bother with politics when feds/players are powerless to impose any decisions made. That's how I feel about it.
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| Sunday, November 25, 2012 - 04:57 am Lee I think Hezekiah is onto something about local feds. For example if they were constructed along the regional line, shared fed defense will be much easier to implement, as well as direct ground support. In contrast, the way feds are set up with members on opposite sides of the globe is kinda useless. Perhaps an option to show political associations is needed as well as a federation designation. That might be a neat idea. Actually scratch that. Even better would be to separate feds into 2 classes. Socio-Economic feds and military feds. Socio-Economic Feds can span throughout the entire globe and have an even larger number of members. Military feds can only align within 2 regions outside the chairpersons main country. Thereby localizing feds and increasing the chance for shared defenses to overlap and support other members.
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Sunday, November 25, 2012 - 05:00 am
I'm not so sure that feds are powerless or unable to enforce or do anything. It appears to be more of a lack of will, cooperation, and proper organization.
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| Sunday, November 25, 2012 - 05:03 am Funny avatar Gaz, first time I've seen it.
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| Sunday, November 25, 2012 - 06:24 am I know lol. He's so ugly but kinda cute at the same time. It's not that I don't want to take part in the world politics. I'd quite enjoy it but there's little benefit being in a mulitplayer fed unless your all on the same war levels. Even then there's a majority of players on the world outside your infulence. Be it on higher or lower levels. So infact it's level politics in a way rather than world. There's no fun for me roleplaying world politics when 80% or more of the world is free to do as they pls regardless. Thats my rather miserable outlook on it sry. I dont wanna ruin the thread for the OP.
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| Sunday, November 25, 2012 - 07:07 am /methinks we need to acquire more players to expand the number of players within the many game levels we have.
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| Monday, November 26, 2012 - 10:14 pm Well, Laguna was a moderator, and he calls it spam. There's no need to keep starting new threads about the same topic is there? It's not an anti-hezzy thing just an anti-opening a thread to find its the same thing again. Jeez, dont you get annoyed by the same TV adverts being blasted at you day in day out? same thing. A bit like these authentication errors that keep digging up ancient threads.
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| Monday, November 26, 2012 - 11:47 pm Look I will cut down on the threads. But since I have made all those threads. Most people who play this game now knows if they didn't before that LU has a world government, and is going to become the best and most organized planet to live on in the Centaudos Galaxy.
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| Tuesday, November 27, 2012 - 03:09 am Lol, I'll give you that, your campaign is successful Hezzy. I promise to critisize no more if you dont fill the forums with extra threads. Good luck.
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| Tuesday, November 27, 2012 - 05:58 am Thank you Crafty. Fare enough. I will not post so many.
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| Tuesday, November 27, 2012 - 06:02 am What's next? Group Hugs?
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| Tuesday, November 27, 2012 - 06:42 am hahahahhahaha
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| Tuesday, November 27, 2012 - 05:58 pm Good Grief, Caesari person and Scarlet......... at least Hezzy IS POSTING and why does it bother you so much whether something is posted in a "wrong" place by your standards?????? I guess y'all are just bored and need something to gripe about????? *rolls eyes First off, nothing that Hezzy has posted has bothered me one iota. Why not just delete ALL my nonsensical posts then? By y'all's definition, perhaps I shouldn't even contribute to the forums at all, because I don't have a real stake in the game. If the GMs wish to move the thread to keep everything uniform, I'm sure they can, as I used to do in a forum that I once managed. But please, as hard as I've been working and others as well to get people to post and interact, don't discourage them by berating them in a disrespectful manner. I see Hezzy as being a serious player and posting on a game vision that he has. My advice to Mr. Caesari and Scarlet, if you dun wish to read Hezzy's posts on said topic under the General Thread, exercise your option and ability to NOT OPEN THE THREAD. Let the GMs moderate the forum and if they see a problem let THEM handle it. *shakes my head
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| Tuesday, November 27, 2012 - 08:40 pm I would have to say well said Kiss, although I have agreed to cut down on the threads.
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| Tuesday, November 27, 2012 - 09:10 pm I'm just gonna have to kill them all....it's that plain and simple. *sighs as I flip through my calendar book I think I can fit this killing into my schedule some time after the first of the year. *Pencils it in for Jan. 15, 2013. Hopefully I won't lose my calendar book before then and forget!! I am gettin' on up in years. ha ha ha ha ha I forget things *looks sheepish
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| Wednesday, November 28, 2012 - 04:05 am lol
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| Wednesday, November 28, 2012 - 11:49 pm Hah! caught you out I reckon Lorelei. Bet you dont have a 2013 calendar yet to pencil anything in. 8P
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| Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 11:10 pm I am almost done with the site everyone. As soon as I am done, I will send out messages of your seats, and how to use your power. Then we can start using it to move LU forward. Just give me a couple more weeks to finish. Please, if you have any resolutions you want to bring forth, please do so. We can still run the government even if it is not fully operational. The Executive Branch is done. The Security Council is done. Just need to finish the Committee Joint Chiefs of Staff of Regional Federations, The Little Upsilon International Court, and the Committee of Common Market Members & Founders. Once it is finished, then we can use it better to see if any tweaking is needed. I only have a little less than 20 LU Years left as Secretary General. I hope I can finish before the federation elections, and the Executive Elections, which are in less than 20 LU years.
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| Friday, November 30, 2012 - 12:45 am ha ha ha ha I dun even balance my check book, much less organize my life, Crafters. ha ha ha ha
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| Sunday, December 2, 2012 - 07:08 am The Legislature is complete!!!
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| Monday, December 3, 2012 - 02:34 am Woohoo!! Way to go, Hezzy! I really like you, even if my political opinion puts us at odds on the debate floor :P
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| Monday, December 3, 2012 - 08:43 am The Tri Cameral Legislature The Committee of the Joint Chiefs of Staff of Regional Federations Centura Donna- Decambra Seat: King Hezekiah (E) Israelite Empire Regional Military Protection: The NLUO Federation Centura Donna- Fornax Musica Seat: Cesar Mclean (E) Ergot Blossom Regional Military Protection:THE LU Defense Organization FEDERATION Centura Donna-Great Salman Seat: Vacant This Region just needs a Federation over it, and find one of the Presidents of this region to start a federation. Centura Donna-Glarus Modo Seat: Vacant This Region just needs a Federation over it, and find one of the Presidents of this region to start a federation. Centura Donna-Micron Bellero Seat: President: Carthaginian0 (I-Carthage) Regional Military Protection: The NLUO Federation Centura Donna-Hora Est Seat: Chief Jackseptic (E) Apache Tribe Regional Military Protection:THE LU DEFENSE ORGANIZATION Centura Donna-Melana Sud Seat: His Highness King Stephen Ryan (E) Country 7 Regional Military Protection: War Ensemble FEDERATION Centura Donna-Putman Minolta Seat: Emperor: Mr. J. Skullz (E) The Realm of Skullz Regional Military Protection:THE Unholy Alliance FEDERATION Centura Donna-Mercury Mundo Seat: This Region just needs a Federation over it, and find one of the Presidents of this region to start a federation. Centura Donna-Mercury Mundo Seat: This Region just needs a Federation over it, and find one of the Presidents of this region to start a federation. Centura Donna-Great Portland Seat: This Region just needs a Federation over it, and find one of the Presidents of this region to start a federation. Centura Donna-North Franklin Seat: This Region just needs a Federation over it, and find one of the Presidents of this region to start a federation. Centura Donna-Marbella Maxima Seat: This Region just needs a Federation over it, and find one of the Presidents of this region to start a federation. Centura Donna-Melodia Granda Seat: This Region just needs a Federation over it, and find one of the Presidents of this region to start a federation. Draca Mixor-Cantonnia Bella Seat:President Nix001 (I-Mother Nature's Army) Regional Military Protection:THE THINK FEDERATION Draca Mixor-Bavaro Bello Seat: King James the Fair (E) The Saxon Band Regional Military Protection:THE NLUO FEDERATION Lacerta-Unicron West Seat: This Region just needs a Federation over it, and find one of the Presidents of this region to start a federation. Lacerta-South Dade Seat: Emperor Xaldin (E) Krondarian Empire Regional Military Protection:THE KRONDARIAN EMPIRE FEDERATION Lacerta-East Valley Seat: This Region just needs a Federation over it, and find one of the Presidents of this region to start a federation. Lacerta-Jura Fantastica Seat: President PrizePack (E) CBA Regional Military Protection: THE LU FINANCIAL GROUP FEDERATION Lacerta-Kusbara Verde Seat: Her Majesty Emperess thetheth01 (I-Tribute to MW) Regional Military Protection:THE WOLF FEDERATION Lacerta-Great Veronica Seat: His Holiness Kanzler Ambien (I-Decay) FEDERATION REPRESENTING THIS REGION: THE UNIVERSAL WEALTH CARE FEDERATION Lacerta-Pictor Veronica Seat: President Crafty (I-SE Lacerta 1) FEDERATION REPRESENTING THIS REGION: THE DNAliens FEDERATION Lacerta-Ottella Monda Seat: His Holiness Kanzler Ambien (I-Deep Unknown) FEDERATION REPRESENTING THIS REGION: THE UNIVERSAL WEALTH CARE FEDERATION Lacerta-Taurus Grande Seat:His Holiness Kanzler Ambien (I-Apparition) FEDERATION REPRESENTING THIS REGION: THE UNIVERSAL WEALTH CARE FEDERATION Lacerta-Taylor Desert Seat:His Holiness Kanzler Ambien (I-The Anti) FEDERATION REPRESENTING THIS REGION: THE UNIVERSAL WEALTH CARE FEDERATION Lacerta-Marco DodaSeat:President Crafty (I-FEDeral Bank) FEDERATION REPRESENTING THIS REGION: THE FED FEDERATION Lacerta-ShafieldSeat: VACANT This Region just needs a Federation over it, and find one of the Presidents of this region to start a federation. Lacerta-Salem Kadury Seat: President Slayerofgods (E-FortressHell) Federation Representing this Region: The Unholy Alliance Federation Lacerta-Fortuna Donna Seat: VACANT This Region just needs a Federation over it, and find one of the Presidents of this region to start a federation. Hercula Major-Porta Belisima Seat: His Highness King Stephen Ryan (E) Punisher FEDERATION REPRESENTING THIS REGION: War Ensemble FEDERATION Hecula Major-Cabana Magnifica Seat: King Lord Arbuckle (I-The Lucion Republic) Federation over this Region: The LU Defense Organization Federation Hercula Major-Carina Kanji Seat: VACANT This Region just needs a Federation over it, and find one of the Presidents of this region to start a federation. Hercula Major-Xango Ho Seat : VACANT This Region just needs a Federation over it, and find one of the Presidents of this region to start a federation. Hercula Major-Indian Hills Seat : Prime minister: Boris Johnson (E) New Britain Federation over this Region: The Common Wealth Federation Hercula Major-Berco York Seat: VACANT This Region just needs a Federation over it, and find one of the Presidents of this region to start a federation. Hercula Major-Winsor Seat: VACANT This Region just needs a Federation over it, and find one of the Presidents of this region to start a federation. Hercula Major-Lake Yorma Seat: Her Majesty Emperess thetheth01 (I-Tribute to Prying Eyes) FEDERATION REPRESENTING THIS REGION: THE WOLF FEDERATION Hercula Major-Bellago Seat: His Holiness Emperor Kasper Quinn (E) Machiavelli FEDERATION REPRESENTING THIS REGION: THE Insane Assylum PM FEDERATION Hercula Major-Great Palms Seat: His Holiness Emperor Kasper Quinn (E) America FEDERATION REPRESENTING THIS REGION: THE Insane Assylum PM FEDERATION Hercula Major-Great Palms Seat: President Arccuk (I- Ravenser ) FEDERATION REPRESENTING THIS REGION: THE WGC LU EAST FEDERATION Hercula Major-Lions Club Seat: VACANT This Region just needs a Federation over it, and find one of the Presidents of this region to start a federation. Hercula Major-Vanguard Seat: President Arccuk (I- West Park) FEDERATION REPRESENTING THIS REGION: THE WGC LU EAST FEDERATION Hercula Major-Octavia Seat: VACANT This Region just needs a Federation over it, and find one of the Presidents of this region to start a federation. Hercula Major-Octavia Seat: His Highness Caesar: maclean FEDERATION REPRESENTING THIS REGION: THE LU Defense Organization FEDERATION Auriga Bella-Gasden Seat: VACANT This Region just needs a Federation over it, and find one of the Presidents of this region to start a federation. Auriga Bella-Great Liberty Seat: Chief Jackseptic (E) Blackfoot Auriga Bella-Nassau Seat: His Highness Caesar maclean (E) Spanish Fly Auriga Bella-Botana Norda Seat: VACANT This Region just needs a Federation over it, and find one of the Presidents of this region to start a federation. Auriga Bella-Patria Kabana Seat: VACANT This Region just needs a Federation over it, and find one of the Presidents of this region to start a federation. Auriga Bella-Karabi est Seat: Chief Jackseptic (E) Dakota Sioux FEDERATION REPRESENTING THIS REGION: THE LU DEFRENSE ORGANIZATION FEDERATION Antilia Major-Andrea Mama Seat: VACANT This Region just needs a Federation over it, and find one of the Presidents of this region to start a federation. Antilia Major-Great Hunter Seat: King Galtic Investments (E) Volana FEDERATION REPRESENTING THIS REGION: THE NLUO FEDERATION Antilia Major-West Walton Seat: Caesar Mclean (E) Lotus Blossom FEDERATION REPRESENTING THIS REGION: THE LU Defense Organization FEDERATION Antilia Major-Mercury Yugo Seat: VACANT This Region just needs a Federation over it, and find one of the Presidents of this region to start a federation. Paova Major-Crane York Seat: President Yankee (I-Faded Glory) FEDERATION REPRESENTING THIS REGION: THE TRES Paova Major-North Portmuth Seat: President Yankee (I-Enigma) FEDERATION REPRESENTING THIS REGION: THE TRES LOBOS FEDERATION Paova Major-Great Almond Seat: President NATRAVMAN (I-Jewelsland) FEDERATION REPRESENTING THIS REGION: THE JOYA FEDERATION Paova Major-Nakomo Valley Seat: His Holiness Emperor Kasper Quinn (E) Quintalius FEDERATION REPRESENTING THIS REGION: THE Insane Assylum PM FEDERATION Paova Major-Painted Valley Seat: President Arccuk (I- West Park) FEDERATION REPRESENTING THIS REGION: THE WGC LU EAST FEDERATION Paova Major-Araba Mida Seat: President NATRAVMAN (I-The Republic of Morana) FEDERATION REPRESENTING THIS REGION: THE JOYA FEDERATION Paova Major-Bandria Grand Seat: President Nix001 (I-The Forces of Nature) FEDERATION REPRESENTING THIS REGION: THE THINK FEDERATION Paova Major-Volusia Seat: VACANT This Region just needs a Federation over it, and find one of the Presidents of this region to start a federation. Paova Major-Amanda Banus Seat: President Nix001 (I-Mother Natures SOS) FEDERATION REPRESENTING THIS REGION: THE THINK FEDERATION Paova Major-Volusia Seat: VACANT This Region just needs a Federation over it, and find one of the Presidents of this region to start a federation. Paova Major-Amherst Seat: His Highness King Stephen Ryan (E) Don FEDERATION REPRESENTING THIS REGION: War Ensemble FEDERATION Paova Major-Pasta Basta Seat: VACANT This Region just needs a Federation over it, and find one of the Presidents of this region to start a federation. Paova Major-South Kadmon Seat: VACANT This Region just needs a Federation over it, and find one of the Presidents of this region to start a federation. Paova Major-Southern Fish Seat: VACANT This Region just needs a Federation over it, and find one of the Presidents of this region to start a federation. Paova Major- Austral Bergo Seat: VACANT This Region just needs a Federation over it, and find one of the Presidents of this region to start a federation. Lynx Minor- White Highlands Seat: VACANT This Region just needs a Federation over it, and find one of the Presidents of this region to start a federation. Lynx Minor- Auruga Deserts Seat: President: Thraw (I-Kegit) FEDERATION REPRESENTING THIS REGION: COALITION OF STATES FEDERATION Lynx Minor-Scorful Seat: His Highness King Stephen Ryan (E) Creed FEDERATION REPRESENTING THIS REGION: War Ensemble FEDERATION Lynx Minor-Octana Banus Seat: VACANT This Region just needs a Federation over it, and find one of the Presidents of this region to start a federation.
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| Monday, December 3, 2012 - 08:52 am Filling up Fast I see. Is it ok to have a single president represent more than a single Seat? I think that would give the council some imbalance, right? Or was it meant to be this way? If it was, I am okay with it, but if a new player arises in a region where a president occupies more than one seat then the new player should be the representative as a default. Thoughts anyone?
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| Monday, December 3, 2012 - 09:18 am I can agree with that, but it would have to be brought as a resolution, and passed.
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| Monday, December 3, 2012 - 09:26 am I need to edit that post because I didn't even put all the seats As I came back and seen it. Anyways these multiple seats are due to the fact that the empires of these nations inhabit more than one region. This was really set in place as a way to gain political power, and how nations handle it, but you have a seat wendy, bring it up for a proposal. Here is how you set up a proposal. You go to the federation page on the site. Then you find your seat, press the Joint Chief of Staff Proposal button, and post the proposal. Set it up as COJCSR00001 The XYZ Act, and put the body of the propsal, and submit it. It will then be picked up by the Majority leader, and brought to the floor for debate, and passage. The Secretary of State approves it into law, and the Secretary General puts the final approval, and it is law.
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| Monday, December 3, 2012 - 04:00 pm i wonder how presidents that have been over a month inactive, signed up for this?
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| Monday, December 3, 2012 - 04:46 pm Orbiter. If you just go and learn how it works you would understand. Why don't you join Orbiter, and fill some of these empty seats.
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| Monday, December 3, 2012 - 04:53 pm nah, i'd rather not, i remember what happened last time... but perhaps you can explain how an inactive president signed up for your thing?
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| Monday, December 3, 2012 - 07:06 pm Well, it could be players like me, Josias, who don't really go into their country/ies for more than a month, but have a voice, per se. So maybe newer players?
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| Monday, December 3, 2012 - 08:00 pm yes. At the general assembly. Any nation can call a general assembly, also if you live on LU your representative for your region can get the things you want done completed for you. All nations have a voice either through their federation, common market, regional Joint Chief, or they can call a general assembly. You must live on LU because this is only an LU world government. It is not an intergalatic alliance.
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| Monday, December 3, 2012 - 08:06 pm orbiter, the whole thing is this. If you want to have some sort of politics on LU besides complaining about the game masters, join this government. What I know now is that time is what wins the war, not how many guns you got.
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| Monday, December 3, 2012 - 08:09 pm Little Upsilon Global Government Structure Executive Branch: The Executive Administration Secretary General, Secretaries of State, Justice, Treasury, and LU Security. http://nluo.webs.com/the-nluo-administration Legislative Branch: Federation chairmen whose federations control each region are on the Committee of 85 Joint Chiefs of Staff, The LU Security Council; which has 15 members, but 8 in the NLUO, and Founders of Common Markets are on the Committee of Common Markets, which has 85 Members as well. http://nluo.webs.com/nluo-federations http://nluo.webs.com/nluo-common-markets http://nluo.webs.com/lu-security-council Judicial Branch: LU International Court which has a chief justice, and 4 associate justices, the Attorney General,which is the Secretary of Justice and the Public Defenser's Office, which is the Secretary of LU Security. The Security Council also acts as part of the Judicial Branch as well. http://nluo.webs.com/lu-security-council http://nluo.webs.com/lu-international-court
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| Monday, December 3, 2012 - 08:10 pm Let it be known that on December 11, 3070, the Little Upsilon World government was completed, and staffed for now and hereafter!!!!
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| Monday, December 3, 2012 - 08:14 pm @ HEZZY Quote: "What I know now is that time is what wins the war, not how many guns you got." Hezzy!!!! Noooooooooooooooo Shoes are what win the war!!! :P Sowwy, had to um throw a lil sim shoe humor in there!
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| Monday, December 3, 2012 - 08:16 pm its not the type of person that interacts at all outside of their own stuff. so, while this is person is inactive, how did they sign up for your government? i guess another way to put it, is why are you lying saying people are involved, when clearly they where never available to join?
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| Monday, December 3, 2012 - 08:44 pm I am not lying about anything. First of all you do not know how the gov even works, and if you did understand how the government worked, you would not be accusing me of lying about anything.
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| Monday, December 3, 2012 - 08:45 pm Why do you even care anyways if you're are not even interested. Your hating of the LU world government is just making its legitimacy more widely known.
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| Monday, December 3, 2012 - 08:48 pm @ KIss, We need a shoe here at 9 O'clock @ orbiter. LOL
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| Monday, December 3, 2012 - 09:35 pm Yeah, well I did wonder how my name and countries got involved a couple of times. I at no point agreed to any affiliation. So maybe you should remove me and others that have not signed up hezzy. I for one do not wish to have my name involved and it is against all national and international law to use it for your purpose without my permission. The joint alliance of TheFED and DNAliens.
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| Monday, December 3, 2012 - 10:38 pm interesting isn't it? i remember going through this last time. "This is like deja vu all over again" Yogi Berra
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| Monday, December 3, 2012 - 10:56 pm you are not setting up "politics," you are setting up a bureaucracy, and starting out kinda shady... i was wondering about crafty, and a few others. but wasn't going to go their. but remembering how this worked last time... i went through your list, looking at the regions that i was in, just to make sure you didn't sign me up. and upon inspection of one of the local fed leaders, i found that the player mentioned in your list, hasn't been active for over a month? and i don't think that you've even been trying to set up your gov longer than he's been inactive. so again, how does an inactive president sign up for your world gov? you've only given me the run around on that, had you had a solid answer... then i'd be done posting. i don't think i need to "understand," how your gov works... to recognize either a lie, or a gross demonstration of incompetence, that is, for some one that wants to set up a world government.
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| Monday, December 3, 2012 - 11:24 pm You people do not understand. He appointed all large nations to the seats, and he is having the administrator send out inbox messages to let you know you have been appointed to these seats. If you are not interested, you simple reply and say you are not interested.
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| Monday, December 3, 2012 - 11:26 pm aren't you putting the cart before the horse? i mean, usually, you have to agree to be a part of something... to be a part of something. right?
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| Monday, December 3, 2012 - 11:26 pm My Son, Orbiter, Why is your aim to hurt this young government? I never post, and I read the forums. All I see orbiter doing is going around being pesamistic, it is a wonder the GMs put up with your negativity.
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| Monday, December 3, 2012 - 11:29 pm If the people do not like it, they can say hey I am not interested. You are apart of this world aren't you? I support Hezekiah in this regard.
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| Monday, December 3, 2012 - 11:37 pm seriously? you really can't just remove these people from your list? do you really need to impotently beef up your numbers to look good? Col Mag... lol,
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| Monday, December 3, 2012 - 11:45 pm Again, you misunderstand, and adding words. I can not converse with such a creature.
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| Monday, December 3, 2012 - 11:55 pm Orbiter. Nobody is beefing up numbers. Do you want to be the 1st to see the government in action?
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| Monday, December 3, 2012 - 11:57 pm because you have no answer. you've decided that you are going to run LU, and you aren't above smoke and mirrors to do it King Hezekiah II Israelite Empire Jan 3048 King Herod VI Nation of Edom Dec 3052 Libyan Arab Jamahiriya Colonel Mahamar Al Gaddafi Dec 3052 as long as we are talking about deja vu. i mean, the three most outspoken members of the NLUO all have a similar themed name, and have start dates with in about a week. lol
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| Tuesday, December 4, 2012 - 12:08 am good grief. Now you gonna say that I kidknapped a game master.
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| Tuesday, December 4, 2012 - 12:09 am hezze, that sounded a bit of a threat, if so, go for it, but other wise, i really am not interested in seeing a centralized organization on any world. i've fought wars, and put my reputation on the line, because i'm not comfortable with any group dictating the actions of players, outside of their own fed, or for specific events. and especially one that enforces peace. i'm not interested in seeing SC become a blood bath, but the strangle hold over war, via a social structure... well it only works for so long, before people get bored.
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| Tuesday, December 4, 2012 - 12:12 am Well. I hope the people get bored so I can quit. I am not doing this for myself. I am doing this because this game is boring without any politics. There are at least 60 people who like what we are doing, so kiss my perverbial ASS!!
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| Tuesday, December 4, 2012 - 12:19 am atleast 60 people that don't care enough to tell you to take them off the list!! thats my point, and if you'd been straight forward with answering that, the rest of this wouldn't be here. but instead, you side stepped the issue, because you need those names to make you look more important. trim the list down to just the people that said they want to be in it, and limit your "authority," to those same people and i woulda already shut up.
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| Tuesday, December 4, 2012 - 12:21 am Keep talking if you want. I could care less about your opinions. They are like assholes. and everyone one has them, and you are one.
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| Tuesday, December 4, 2012 - 12:32 am wow? really? so, not only do you have a nucleus of players that all started together, with a similar themed name, you pad your member list, you refuse outside critizism, and all the while claiming to run a world? you can't really explain your behavior, so you'll just pass me off.
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| Tuesday, December 4, 2012 - 01:25 am People of LU who consider the NLUO viable. I would urge you to consider the manner of the self-appointed chief of that organisation. His diplomatic skills are obviously seriously flawed, to challenge a major power without the normal channels of diplomacy. He obviously feels like he should rule the whole of LU with threats, spin and lies. Those that disagree would be eliminated. Do not you find it ironic that one of his responders is named 'Gaddafi'? This organisation has the same ideals as the other gaddafi, suppression under the guise of growth and peace. We all know how that worked out. All the organisation needs is a member called saddam Hussein and a large supply of chemical weapons. Beware how you align yourself because the power and will of the free world will always prevail.
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| Tuesday, December 4, 2012 - 02:23 am Listen, I lost my cool there because of all the time I put into this thing just to have some accuse me of dealing with tyrants.I apologize to you Orbiter for calling you an asshole. That just upset because like I said I put a lot of work into this just so people can have a good time building their nation with a world government helping them learn the game, building their countries, and have general interaction through a social network, that all who participate can enjoy. So, if you want to make fun of it that is fine. Also Herod and Gaddafi are people who go to my church, and they joined with me. So, again my apologies for any inconveinence.
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| Tuesday, December 4, 2012 - 02:56 am apology accepted
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| Tuesday, December 4, 2012 - 03:13 am To you Crafty. There will be an email sent out to you in the coming days, and if you do not want to be apart of this government, just reply to the email and let them know.
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| Tuesday, December 4, 2012 - 04:01 am ***Really? Hez? This is Orbiter's Wife... I have no contact with this game. I realized in a second that you had logged in under a different account to continue your thread. Did you not think that my Husband who has played this game for years won't notice??? That's just silly.***
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| Tuesday, December 4, 2012 - 04:04 am Hezzy, I am thrilled that you and your friends play the game, contribute to the forums and the chat and try to encourage people to join and learn together, a spirit of helpfulness. I hope that the method of some players' disgruntlement doesn't put a cloud over your enthusiasm.
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| Tuesday, December 4, 2012 - 04:11 am Josias/Orbiter, WHY is your wife getting involved in YOUR game?????? That post is uncalled for. I will complain to the GMs of your unfounded accusations as you did in the past when said allegations were made against you by Wendy???? Just saying. I would advise yourwife to stay out of your game and let YOU handle things, perhaps? This in reference to your post: "Tuesday, December 4, 2012 - 04:01 am -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ***Really? Hez? This is Orbiter's Wife... I have no contact with this game. I realized in a second that you had logged in under a different account to continue your thread. Did you not think that my Husband who has played this game for years won't notice??? That's just silly.***
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| Tuesday, December 4, 2012 - 04:23 am This the most ridiculous back and forth I have ever seen. Those who throw stones should not live in glass houses.
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| Tuesday, December 4, 2012 - 04:39 am ...
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| Tuesday, December 4, 2012 - 04:42 am No, this type of posting is what ruins this game and loses players. What a shame. I give up, I think this game is beyond being the fun place that it used to be. Way to go, Orbiter, are you proud of yourself???
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| Tuesday, December 4, 2012 - 04:45 am you know, what ever, i mean seriously. what i, (and my wife,) where pointing out, was not so much the multi-part, i don't care, its the part where he's pretending that his "government," is much bigger than what it is. including inactives, and players that just didn't bother to respond... don't really support his position. any democratic government, the power of the government, comes from the governed. to claim more players in an obvious attempt to rail road others into subjuctation... honestly, if he'd just have acknowledged the mistake, and agree to a second mailing, to make sure. this had been over long ago. but by side stepping the question, its obvious that he is reluctant to trim his numbers, because that is where his only strength is.
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| Tuesday, December 4, 2012 - 04:58 am Josias, the matter was settled and an apology offered. That last post was just pure attack and I questioned whether someone hacked your account, because that post is so out of character for you. Not out of character for your former or perhaps current game mate, but decidedly out of character for you. I have just now been able to put my differences with you in the past, but THIS....... I don't respect. I'm sorry, you are a long time player, and perhaps some diplomacy would get the same point across???? You can point out alleged wrongs and ask for corrections and get the same desired results? Maybe I'm a little too passionate here, but I've been the product of game abuse. No one stood up for me. I WILL stand up for what I see is wrong. This is wrong. What your wife posted, was wrong.
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| Tuesday, December 4, 2012 - 05:01 am i disagree
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| Tuesday, December 4, 2012 - 05:02 am Furthermore, so what if he puts forth that his government is bigger than what it is? Why does that threaten you? I tell everyone I'm the biggest and baddest of Simcountry. ha ha ha ha Not to mention ALL the lies of your bestie, Wild, or BrokenAmbitions, whoever she is???? Ugh.........dun even go there wif me! :P
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| Tuesday, December 4, 2012 - 05:03 am shrug actually, what wendy got banned for, was a post that well, players have been banned for less and is that really a subject you wanna talk about? i mean some one mentioned glass houses and stones?
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| Tuesday, December 4, 2012 - 05:10 am Back atcha, Babe.
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| Tuesday, December 4, 2012 - 05:14 am i mean, the most disgusting display of bad sportsmanship i've ever seen in a game, came from you, blue and wendy, mocking wild. so before you start, stop!
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| Tuesday, December 4, 2012 - 05:18 am You answer me one question and I will leave it. Why did your wife post that? Following an apology, your acceptance, and a post by Hezzy to correct things.
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| Tuesday, December 4, 2012 - 05:30 am Orbiter, I will answer and address whatever you wish to dish out. I would prefer to do it in private so as not to bore the rest of the sim community who really doesn't care lol But, if you wish to smack me, tear me to pieces, have your little minions come back and attack me, i dun care. Fire away. It isn't important to me. You are the man here. I'm a female. Furthermore, I said nothing other than I didn't believe her. Blue was the one who said the offhand remark. Wendy also only confirmed that she thought it a lie. Sooooooooooo how was what I said disgusting? She lied about everything else...why would we believe her?
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| Tuesday, December 4, 2012 - 06:05 am my wife needed a little cheer up, this thread is funny, so i showed it to her, she felt the need to point out the obvious, although i find it odd that you take such an opportunity to attack me, via my wife, then want to go behind closed doors when its your turn to get flamed? honestly, their are a lot of things in the past that i'm willing to let go, or chuckle with you over. i mean, we could really rip into each other. the best way to avoid that, would be to stop attacking me. but thats just my point. if he has to hide behind shirt tails, and make up numbers, can we really take him seriously? we can't, and personal attacks are the only way to divert the attention away from the real question, that "still," hasn't been resolved, btw
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| Tuesday, December 4, 2012 - 06:27 am I do try hard to let the past stay in the past, Josias. I suffered a lot of hurt in this game, so maybe I am a little too passionate in some things that I say. It was not my intention to attack your wife or you. I was merely trying to point out what I was seeing, and it seemed way too harsh in a game where I think we are all trying to change way things have been in the past. I'm not hiding behind closed doors. I will address anything you wish to flame me with. I have admitted my past wrongs in this game, unlike others. I just didn't want to rehash a 2-year long drama that is a waste of time, because you and I will never see eye to eye. Crafty also had issue with Hezzy, but he was much less um attacking, but still got his point across. I'm all for smack, good natured drama. But as you once told me, you can't brand someone a multi account player without proof. It's not good in a game like this one where respect from mutual players is very important. It is blatantly obvious to me those who play multiple accounts. I humor them all. I even jokingly told someone that someone that I dun like as this person, I'm prob best buds with under another persona. lol I told you way back, I would almost like you except you were da enemy ha ha ha Well I have no enemies any more. I tend to speak my mind, and that prob is what gets me into trouble. But I wouldn't be me, if I didn't. And it wouldn't have mattered who it was who posted that, you or someone else, I would have said something. I will strive to bite my tongue in the future.
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| Tuesday, December 4, 2012 - 08:49 am ...
actually the sooner the better, if you were Josias...
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Tuesday, December 4, 2012 - 08:50 am
Josias, unless you are Jonni or Andy pretending to be Josias 'the player'(which actually would explain a LOT). you don't really have a clue do you? and still not buying the 'wife posted' crap...a fools weight in Gold Coins!
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| Tuesday, December 4, 2012 - 09:02 am Yeah and your wife has ZERO credibility in this game running a close second to you yourself. If that even was your wife *winks*, *winks*. I know how you like to keep a 'polished' public image. So yeah the accusation of a multi behind your hypothetical wife's presence in your account was a nice way of saying it , but hiding behind some form of imagination in order to not take responsibility for the baseless accusation YOU just made. Do you or your wife have any proof other than your 'hunch' from someone who claims to have no contact in the game yet is logged into your account to have such a strong opinion on who is or is not a multi. And since you claim that I was banned for saying just that about you(even though I had more proof than your wife), you should be banned for attacking the player trying to play the game with other players instead of the several people or personalities logged into your account that supposedly have no contact with the game but have a mystical 'all-seeing' EYE (or) EYES <---- Get it?
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Tuesday, December 4, 2012 - 09:16 am
Agreed, it is very plain to see. Can't help bringing up Old Stuff. Hezekiah is actually playing the game in a positive manner. Kiss of Death is trying to maintain a continued state of positive conversation on the forum. And me, I have not said a word to you, at you, or otherwise for you to begin fabricating stories. In fact I've tried to avoid speaking to you about much of anything since you are the crying type. Yet here you are for the 10th different thread stalking Kiss and bringing up stupid crap about Wildeyes. Well, pretending to be several different people that continually threaten kiss in real life and the game, and stalk her in chat(kinda like you've been doing for the past month on the forum) Wildeyes made her bed. She wanted to play around and take things too far. So what if players cool with Kiss and witnessed her in action stooped to that low level. You're name dropping like the FBI... what is the point other than to devolve every decent thread into some pointless cycle of regurgitated history that only you seem unable to let go of? Actually don't even answer that. I don't even care. I'm going to mysteriously claim to have zero contact with any of your posts anyway. I wonder if I mean that will I not be able to see your posts anymore, lol.
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| Tuesday, December 4, 2012 - 03:29 pm All right, calm down the lot of you. Listen, Orbiter was just pointing out the inaccuracy of the nulo padding out its list of whatever it is with non-active and uninvolved presidents. A point I wholly agree with, seeing as I am a victim of their misrepresentation. Nezzy may think he is being positive and helpful but it looks to me like he is stirring up a pot full of sh*t while he goes about it. He and his two noob buddies are creating the exact opposite of their desired goal. If it weren't for the war levels and disappointment of the war game in general you can believe me that there would have been a fair bit of blood shed already, just for the hell of it, it didnt take much of a reason to start a good fun war before, and hez is putting all his cohorts in danger of war, destruction, famine and pestilence rather than the promised land he offers.
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| Tuesday, December 4, 2012 - 03:52 pm So you're threatening them for simply playing the game and incorporating all members of little upsilon...wow. And we wonder why we are having problems with retaining members. King already got it bad from the community years ago, and against all odds he liked this game so much he actually returned to a community full of haters. Be serious Crafty, he isn't harming you in any way whatsoever. You are 'by default' the seat holder in your region. Is that such a bad thing? It is easier to ignore, why so sour over nothing?
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| Tuesday, December 4, 2012 - 03:53 pm Why? Because it's a game.
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| Tuesday, December 4, 2012 - 03:58 pm So you do get where this is going, okay. This is a game... Sounds good.
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| Tuesday, December 4, 2012 - 04:18 pm Hezekiah, Hezekiah, what have you done? tsk tsk...
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| Tuesday, December 4, 2012 - 04:30 pm so theirs no need for hezze to show any transparency? i mean, he's claiming to run a world? and for some reason, we are suppose to applaud him for lying? for the record, if you look at each of, what? the last 6 times KoD has gone off on me. its because she attacked me, and brought up the past. i'm not the one following her around the forums. i'm not the one that keeps doing this with her. infact if i try to blow her off, and let things slide, it makes her even madder! shoot, look at this very thread. i had a legit question. i started out with a simple question that could have been addressed. but instead, the NLUO simply told me that i didn't understand the system.. ??? the more they dodged, the worse they looked. i mean the guy wants to say that he's running LU, but doesn't want to offer any accountablity. honestly, it sounds like you. and Wendy. i've gone to war and sim beat people up, for talking to you the way you just did to me. so i'll say this again. as long as he has to hide in your shirt tales, he wont be taken seriously. he'll just be a wendy puppet, and treated accordingly.
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| Tuesday, December 4, 2012 - 04:46 pm Man Josias, please.... you went up the war levels to avoid war too, don't start that phony chest puffing... Find yourself somewhere you aren't at a war level and come see me. You're softer than a baby's arse. Go whine to another GM why don't ya. Talking out of your behind. I don't even see you. Your new nick is hollow-man. We already went through this. You could always use one of those accounts you don't have. And I am officially done talking to you before you start the ban spam. If you're wife could say it, why can't I. I actually pay to play here. Can't say the same for her.
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| Tuesday, December 4, 2012 - 04:51 pm And as far as you and Kiss of death, no one cares what you say. This thing you keep doing with her on every thread where she isn't bothering you is getting old. Just like you. Just shut up and move on already.
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| Tuesday, December 4, 2012 - 04:51 pm see i'm all good with you trying to get people to back off. thats fair. you wanted to give a chance to do his thing. but instead of addressing the issue, or even asking me what i was talking about. he instantly began defending his system. take a look, he had allot of chances to just address my issue, but instead, of even asking for more info, he side stepped the issue, and displayed blind faith, in a system already riddled with lies... i mean, think about it. he is displaying blind faith, in his own creation. rather than trying to identify problems with it, and resolve those. so instead of offering a comprehensive system. he's offering a system, that its own leaders, and founders don't understand. they just blindly believe, in there lifeless creation. i'm not trying to stop him. however, i do resent him setting up a bunch of accounts, including inactives, and low interest players in his government, that never actually cared enough to join. then use this fake momentum, to dominate, and control the rest of the players to following bureaucratic system, that is already to large and unwieldy for his own abilities.
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| Tuesday, December 4, 2012 - 04:55 pm yada yada yap yap.... irrelevant nothings falling from your posts.... Did you say something? Oh, nothing that really matters. At least to me. Cya in another 10 real years.
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| Tuesday, December 4, 2012 - 05:01 pm I get to work read the forums, who do I find? A huge smear campaign at the hands of orbiter and Crafty. All I did was go through the different regions, and nations based on their empire, and set them up in a seat in the legislature. This is a "world government". Once I completed it, I was then going to email all the nations with seats, and let them know that they have been appointed to the seat in their respective regions. If the nations was not interested all they had to do is reply. If no reply they sit in the seat until the gms remove them from the game completely if they are inactive. I don't claim to run LU. I am simply stimulating political, military, and economic cooperation. I am not good at diplomacy I can agree, but we have a secretary of State who generally would handle matters like this. I appreciate Wendy eloquently clarifying my motives in this game. I don't have ghost accounts because I have to great a task in managing this government to waste time with ghost accounts. Your question Orbiter was not legitimate. Your question was loaded. All you tried to do is make it seem as if nobody is interested in this gov, and I am alone running this government to make myself look important. I would not even spend my time. I would be a nut case for doing that. As far as being Wendy's puppet, well, I do not have a puppet master. You speak of transparency. If I was not transparent, I would never post in the forum, and just build this gov behind closed doors, and once everyone was ready, we could have militarily one by one picked off all the nations who would not join, but this was not the case. So you are grabbing at the air, and really orbiter, I think you are jealous because you alone can't stimulate a fart out of your crapper. I apologized to you, and you took my apology and wiped your A$$. So, now, here we are. Are you the new Stuart or what? I did not dodge any question. If you knew how the government worked, which I showed you how it worked, and you still persist. I am also getting threats from you and crafty as well as members of my fed. I wanna thank Wendy, and Kiss for being the voices of reason, and I personally thank you. If you don't like me Orbiter, all you had to do was vote me out of office when the elections come up. I have a premium account, and I am not afraid. you feeling froggy, Obiter, jump. I am done, and will not reply unless asked a question from Wendy or Kiss.
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| Tuesday, December 4, 2012 - 05:05 pm well, scroll up, who started the exchange between us in this thread? o thats right, it was her. and for some reason, i'm suppose to just take it up the arse, with out defending myself?
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| Tuesday, December 4, 2012 - 05:15 pm "Your question Orbiter was not legitimate. Your question was loaded. All you tried to do is make it seem as if nobody is interested in this gov, and I am alone running this government to make myself look important. " hezze but you side stepped the entire problem. rather than asking me what i was talking, or any information, you simply dismissed me, and claimed no flaw to your system. you, recruited people, and when you thought you had enough strength, you claimed that your government was set up. how ever, the problem is, that... well, how many people actually signed up? no body really knows, and from your reactions, you don't either. basically, you are either lying, to look more powerful, or incompetent. the orignal question could have been addressed. it is YOUR side stepping hezze, that has taken this, this far.
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| Tuesday, December 4, 2012 - 05:19 pm I personally believe Hezekiah has lost his legitimacy to lead the government. We need to impeach him. Look at al the drama he is causing just by not being diplomatic or answering the people's questions. These nations are having a massive government imposed on them, and at least we can do is level with them. Hezekiah is incapable diplomacy. I am loyal to you Hezekiah, but I think your time as Secretary General is coming to an end. This is just my personal assessment. Please don't cuss me out like you did orbiter, ok Hezekiah?
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| Tuesday, December 4, 2012 - 05:21 pm yawns... Josias stalking kiss on 25 different threads and in the course of his petty remarks he name drops Wendy and Blueserpent... neither did anything or said anything in his pursuit of Kiss all over 25 different threads in the forum, but he has to include others in his petty mind games and stalker mentality. I repeat, Wendy and blueserpent had no part in Josias little head game and Josias is just a trolling flamer and is doing it so well that even newbies took notice. And here I thought I was the only one. But I am done talking to him. This is why I rarely have any small talk becuase he puts on a good face earlier in the threads talking about chess servers I pointed out to him, but all along it was just a setup for a bait into his petty theatrics... Poor him, what a victim... and he threatens me with stories of his past conquests beating up inactive accounts and gang style bashing of n00bs and unsuspecting players. While he and ALL of his cohorts one by one eiather started over or raised there war levels to avoid having a war with me. So I have nothing else to say to him becuase he is as phony as they come. His games are see through and I know where this lands. In an email to the GMS claiming I am tarnishing his so-called reputation. I'm done with this fellow. Find some other highway traffic to play in. This road is out in 500ft.... The end.
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| Tuesday, December 4, 2012 - 05:25 pm and wendy, their is a very big, bold, flashing difference, between what my wife did, and you did. you followed me around, and bashed me, every where i posted. she stated her opinion, once. based on what seems so very obvious to her, that it is funny and back to the personal attacks. i did not attack kissy first, in this thread, or any of the last dozen or so times we've gone around. for some reason she seems to think that because she's a girl, i'm suppose to just let her be as nasty as she wants, and get thanked her for her sweet presence? what? and so we come to this question. why are you supporting some one that isn't afraid to deceive, in order to rule?
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| Tuesday, December 4, 2012 - 05:28 pm From: Israelite Empire To: Nation of Edom Real Date: 04-12-2012 17:27:59 World Date: May 15 3071 Subject: Treason!!! Message: You little Punk!! I brought you in to this game, and the government and showed you how to play, and this is how you repay me. Wait to we get to church saturday.. I can't believe you. Once this is all over, I am setting up a vote to get you out of our fed, and then I cam going to set up a vote to have you removed from your post in the government. And I am going to ask the Secretary of Justice to summons you for treason, and have you kicked out of the government!! Think I won't try me.
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| Tuesday, December 4, 2012 - 05:29 pm This is what Hezekiah sent me. Some leader...
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| Tuesday, December 4, 2012 - 05:29 pm Yaaawns... misery loves company... and I don't have time to hang out with ya today, tomorrow, or never. CYA <3
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| Tuesday, December 4, 2012 - 05:30 pm so for some reason, while the question, was, and still is, why is hezze using players that didn't sign up for his government? i mean, the how, has been answered. but what next? in order for their to be a world government, the government its self, has to offer accountablity. the personal attacks on this thread, are only meant to distract from an already shady leadership!! if their was nothing to hide, their'd been no reason for the rest of this drama.
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| Tuesday, December 4, 2012 - 05:31 pm And King Herod, repent... for the Kingdom is draws nigh.
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| Tuesday, December 4, 2012 - 05:33 pm King Hezekiah as with any zoo you visit, don't feed the Animals so goes the same in internet forums... Don't feed the trolls and sooner or later they'll just go away. And Josias, there is a very big, bold, , between There and Their Figure it out.
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| Tuesday, December 4, 2012 - 05:55 pm aww, ya, thats right, lets build a world government, that doesn't offer any transparency, or accountability. instead, it claims members, whilst they are unaware, then the leaders use their rep to build their own power base, all with out the individuals approval, or even knowledge. but some how that is righteous. further, when discrepancies are pointed out. rather than seeking information, and a resolution. the response is basically, the run around. even further... "So you're threatening them for simply playing the game and incorporating all members of little upsilon...wow. " wendy "Your hating of the LU world government is just making its legitimacy more widely known." hezze "You are apart of this world aren't you?" C Mag so it would seem that LU world government, is effectively claiming to rule LU, and me via proxy. it doesn't seem like i have much choice. even if i don't sign up, they are still going to enforce their rules on me. so ya, i think that i have every right to challenge them to be honest with their thing.
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| Tuesday, December 4, 2012 - 06:01 pm i'm not really sure, wendy, of how you of all people can stand up in the forums, and make personal attacks, in defense of an obviously shady act. if you scroll back up, my question was originally very calm, and polite. it wasn't until getting the run around that i felt the need to force an answer.
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| Tuesday, December 4, 2012 - 06:11 pm Orbiter, I quote: "for the record, if you look at each of, what? the last 6 times KoD has gone off on me. its because she attacked me, and brought up the past. i'm not the one following her around the forums. i'm not the one that keeps doing this with her. infact if i try to blow her off, and let things slide, it makes her even madder! I won't apologize for my posts. None of them. I'm not angry either. I was disgusted by the exchange in what I saw, but certainly not angry. I stand behind what I pointed out above. I'm not going to argue with you, Orbiter. Everything above speaks for itself. I don't feel a need to defend myself here, at all. There is no reason for you to defend yourself at all to me, and my posts were not attacking at all. I was just making observations. Just saying. Love to you all, Kiss
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| Tuesday, December 4, 2012 - 06:14 pm tell you what, stop going off on me like you did above, and we wont have any problems! if you do, i will defend myself. pretty simple, huh?
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| Tuesday, December 4, 2012 - 06:22 pm And where, Josias, did I go "off" on you? Am I not to point out on what I deem wrong here? I think you are overreacting.
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| Tuesday, December 4, 2012 - 06:50 pm good enough, now that you've had the last word, can it be your last word? you certainly have every right to post, but you've made your point. i got it!
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| Tuesday, December 4, 2012 - 08:32 pm so much talk almost seems like time for a "systems test"
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| Tuesday, December 4, 2012 - 08:39 pm I think it's working well. Everything has come out loud and clear. :P BTW, we all do really love each other!!!
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| Tuesday, December 4, 2012 - 09:48 pm Hez, where you went wrong was to make your list including people before you asked them, thinking that you would ask them afterward. You can't do that with any credibility mate. You should have contacted people first and then made your list. Simples. An apology to myself and to Orbiter is in order for doing this. I know you apologised for name calling but I think your fed/organisation whatever it is should apologise for mishandling its mis-appropriation of peoples names and the feds they represent. This, and your attitude about the whole affair, is what I am pissed about.
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| Wednesday, December 5, 2012 - 12:53 am I agree crafty. I personally told him that this is a form of plagerism, and identity theft.
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| Wednesday, December 5, 2012 - 01:54 am ive had ENOUGH OF THIS bullshite......im starting to get angry ENOUGH...LET this thread die
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| Wednesday, December 5, 2012 - 02:23 am You god aren't ya? kill it.
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Wednesday, December 5, 2012 - 01:08 pm
we think alike <3
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| Wednesday, December 5, 2012 - 11:20 pm Herod, you are a backstabbing power hungry individual. If you even think anybody will vote for you for anything, you got another thing coming.
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| Thursday, December 6, 2012 - 03:05 am Yup! Death unto anyone who supports Herod!!!!
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| Thursday, December 6, 2012 - 03:28 am I agree with the death threat! Ja! Tod Herod VI von LU!
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| Thursday, December 6, 2012 - 03:45 am Herod is marked by the Kiss Of Death.
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| Thursday, December 6, 2012 - 06:39 am Should I even address this?
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Thursday, December 6, 2012 - 02:37 pm
Actually lezzy, I think King Herods isolationist approach to the government of LU is a far more rational acceptable one than your expansionist bully dictator one. Maybe you should consider a coalition with him, it may save your political career with the election looming.
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| Thursday, December 6, 2012 - 04:15 pm CC really, you don't agree with England and America's expansionist roots? I know you mean in game, but doesn't that contradict where we stand in real life. American and English colonialism looks pretty popular in these two Nations. Obviously not in the rest of the world being colonized by Western Expansion but you get what I am trying to say,right?
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| Thursday, December 6, 2012 - 06:13 pm .................waiting
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| Thursday, December 6, 2012 - 08:45 pm you don't talk Lord Neptune. I was in the chat. generally you have me, wendy, Kiss, Orbiter, Jackseptic, Serpent, and CC in the chat.
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| Thursday, December 6, 2012 - 09:11 pm Well here are my thoughts, Herod is supposedly Hezzy's real life friend. Seems odd to me that his so called "friend" would be so disrespectful to him and ask that he be ousted in a game they share. Good grief!!! I would feel betrayed. He does this to his friend???? He can certainly disagree, but call for him to be ousted???? I'm stunned. I'm sure you were right there in the planning, Herod, but when things get heated, you sell out your friend. Pfft. Change your name to Judas, it is more appropriate. Nah, you dun have to answer that above, Herod, the betrayer. But you WILL answer one day. I will see to it! Oh and let me be clear on something, this IS NOT one of my "playful" threats.
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| Thursday, December 6, 2012 - 09:19 pm i fight and insult my friends more then anyone as they do to me...the beauty is we dont care because we all know we love eachother and that we know we can be BRUTALLY honest with eachother....its a much more relaxed enviornment that way
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| Thursday, December 6, 2012 - 09:30 pm which chat room i check them all an see no one
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| Thursday, December 6, 2012 - 09:36 pm Doesn't matter, Mr. T. I have made him my new target. :P
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| Thursday, December 6, 2012 - 09:42 pm Neptune, we see you come in, but you never say anything when we speak to you.
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| Thursday, December 6, 2012 - 09:54 pm To be honest Wendy, I don't agree with real life expansionism. I certainly don't like the way the US and UK throw their weight (ok, mainly US weight) around making societies behave the way we see fit. Now of course I have a lot to thank my expansionist forefathers for. Britannia ruled the waves and we were a great empire from humble little island roots. I don't have the right or knowledge to comment about US expansion. That great bit of Great Britain is gradually being eroded as the empire gains independance bit by bit. BUT, we still remain one of the worlds major players, and for our lifestyle I thank expansionism.
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| Thursday, December 6, 2012 - 10:39 pm CRAFTY! Please come to CHAT!!!!!
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| Friday, December 7, 2012 - 12:28 am I see CC. 
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| Friday, December 7, 2012 - 05:24 am Orbiter I completely agree.
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| Friday, December 7, 2012 - 03:49 pm Just to let you all know, Neppty finally made chat contact!!!! Yay!!!!
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| Sunday, December 9, 2012 - 05:50 pm I'm fed up with being constantly booted from chat. The reconnect button doesnt work either. And yes, I've tried several external clients too. Until we get a new chat system Kiss, I'm afraid my use of it will be minimal.
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| Monday, December 10, 2012 - 02:44 am I'd like to thank King Hezekiah II for all the hard work he's put into setting up the world government of Little Upsilon. It isn't an easy task and let's hope it will succeed.
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| Monday, December 10, 2012 - 05:56 am Seconded Lee. I am very surprised to see you as an open advocate of Hezekiah's efforts. I am thankful for your support in his endeavor.
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| Monday, December 10, 2012 - 06:07 am Fox News... Simcountry style.
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| Monday, December 10, 2012 - 06:19 am Wenders, I know you well enough to know you would be the first to tell someone to put up or die if they tried to dictate who you could and couldnt fight, what products you must and mustn't buy or produce, or try to force you into anything, so why the effort at showing support? And you LLee, you have always been a maverick here so your face isn't fitting either. Yous two must be up to something is all I can think.
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| Monday, December 10, 2012 - 06:35 am King Lord Lee, and President wendy both understand that they are equal partners in the governing of the world of Little Upsilon. The basic motive is to teach nations to stay in the game.
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| Monday, December 10, 2012 - 08:32 am Pretty much summed that up King. I'm not sure what you're up to, but you haven't stopped trying to bait Hezekiah into something he is not asking for, which is war. And we wonders why war levels are here to stay. I know that the NLUO can not dictate anything to me or anyone who is a member. This is not what the NLUO is trying to do. So CC you actually confirm that this is not the sinister end-game of any part of NLUO with your statement. You know I'm not ever going to go for anyone dictating how I do anything in the game. The NLUO is not about control, it is about Joint governance by active players on LU. I'm really not sure why you are so hell-bent on giving King's effort such a bad rap. I CHOSE to be a member of NLUO, not because they will dictate anything to me, but because this is the kind of interaction and backdrop this game needs to move forward and back into the days of old where people did something in the game instead of bitch and moan all over the forums to no end. That is why I joined. Because I want to be proactive in building this game up. To be truthful CC, this game isn't going to grow itself. Last I checked KB and the Protectorate have been long dead. Cooperation on many different levels is the way forward for simcountry.
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| Monday, December 10, 2012 - 08:40 pm Here Here!!! Well Said President Wendy!!! Well Said!!!
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| Monday, December 10, 2012 - 10:23 pm Wendy, you must have read what hezzies lot say about warring. They want you to go through this process and that process, and there are other ridiculous econ demands as well. See, I at least read it, I'm not baiting H. So are you going to jump through these hoops? If they decide you cant war, then what? These are their rules Wendy, they are there in black and white, there's no avenue to spin out of it. I dont think you should encourage this govt idea for those very reasons, you wont be able to play in their rules. I like that people try to get the game warmed up, Kiss tries real hard, I try by helping all the time, you keep the forum lively, serp...josias...and many I havent mentioned. Hezz is too, agreed, but his method of demanding peoples co-operation is a shade too pale. I, like you, will play my way, I will not have NLUO telling me what I can and cant do, and I still demand a public apology for using my name in vain in his little list of seargents or whatever they all are. So there is my piece, big bad bully N.korea of sim is saying to nluo, keep your pokey little nose out of my business. Funnily enough I dont sing 'lonely' any more, this whole evil rising on LU with its communistic whisperings of 'we are here to help, you are all equal and we will protect you, just sign your freedoms away here...' has given me and a few others some entertainment and maybe a bit more for a few weeks to come. So the plan is working, it's something to talk about. Shame is, like you, I've been here some years now, and just like other events we have witnessed, this too will fade into sim obscurity. Oh, and Hezz...
Can you hear yourself? Grow up and get yourself a pair.
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| Monday, December 10, 2012 - 11:12 pm As a man of peace, prosperity, and intercooperation,and discipline. I shrug off your accusations of communistic ideals. I have posted a number of times the aim of this government. There is no freedom being signed away. All we are doing is disciplining ourselves as a planet to follow a set of goals to achieve to make LU the greatest planet in the galaxy, winning all the Sim Country awards. Having the Most active nations in the galaxy. Having 100s of nations working together in lockstep for the security, prosperity, and longevity of the nations of LU. So, if that makes me an international criminal. Guilty as Charged!!!
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| Tuesday, December 11, 2012 - 12:30 am if its real fascism you players want to accomadate on LU THEN GO AHEAD ENJOY, ive said im outa here and anyone who's with em is a target period! freedom RULES everytime, the freedom to do as one pleases even if its deemed so called wrong!
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| Tuesday, December 11, 2012 - 03:13 am Hezze you are a piece of work. "I shrug off your accusations of communistic ideals". I reckon a world government is bad. For new players to be successful there needs to be multiple competitive federations recruiting simultaneously so that there is an actual need to recruit: getting ahead in player numbers and military might. To believe that NLUO can unite and secure LU is looney, because there will always be players who will do their own thing and cause chaos.
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| Tuesday, December 11, 2012 - 03:19 am well you know when i come to lu, i have to have ma space! i'm a killer! i have to have the right to kill! first on my list: HEROD!!!!
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