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Why you shouldn't build new corps

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Crafty

Tuesday, September 18, 2012 - 04:17 pm Click here to edit this post
Seems counter-intuitive doesn't it?

Well look at this.

I built a corp (state) about a game year ago.

I have SS at 80% (102 index).

The building of this corps financial considerations...

A total workforce income drop of $1.15 B

An individual LLW income drop of $300

Hence a tax income drop of $660M

a health contribution drop of $280M

an education contribution drop of $185M

Private investments down $70M divi down $30M

Pension contributions down $21M

(each pensioner receives $4 less a month)


A gain in saving $360M on the SS bill.

So my math says:

Gain = $360M

Losses = $1.155B

Overall outcome = $-795M

For one corp, thats going to have to be a nice corp to cover that every month and profit the country.

So I wonder, where is the flaw in my thinking?
Should I maybe reduce SS or raise salaries, knowing this will effect welfare in country and corps?

I would have thought with SS at only 80% of LLW salary the opposite of what I am observing should be happening, but the figures are there.

And whats even more bizarre is that this new corp has a salary level of 300 compared to a national average of 275 :/

So now it's time for ME to pick YOUR brains.

Whats up?

Serpent

Tuesday, September 18, 2012 - 04:54 pm Click here to edit this post
Is it possible that after the corp is upgraded the numbers might change in your favor? Many of the facts you posted will undoubtedly change in the next several sim years.

Not only should there be a gain in a smaller amount of SS paid, but another gain because those sims are now paying taxes?

Somewhere some figures are being missed.

Crafty

Tuesday, September 18, 2012 - 04:57 pm Click here to edit this post
Thats the rub serp'. The taxes paid went down! because the total income of the work force went down...huh? but the numbers show more people employed, less unemployed and this is evidenced by the drop in SS payments, though that could be due to SS payments being 80% of a lsmaller LLW income, haven't done that sum yet.

Thanks for reading Jason.

Serpent

Tuesday, September 18, 2012 - 05:02 pm Click here to edit this post
I cant seem to fathom a reason why taxes paid went down that dosent make sense, kinda like a hungry baby in a topless bar! But somewhere the math is there, we (I) just havent found the right numbers.... lol.

sbroccoli

Tuesday, September 18, 2012 - 08:24 pm Click here to edit this post
But Crafty, I guess you didn't just build a cheese factory or something?

So what's the value of a safe delivery of ??

Hard to factor in, I know. But if you find your country ending up with immediate orders enough times, those pesky S corporations might also save you some money.

Crafty

Tuesday, September 18, 2012 - 10:28 pm Click here to edit this post
It was only a level 1 corp. Chemicals.

I reckon given a month or maybe two it will bounce back to normal. Changes to things do often cause a wierd blip for a month or so.

I guess this is where the damping does actually show.

Drew

Wednesday, September 19, 2012 - 08:30 am Click here to edit this post
It would seem much of this info can have fluctuation value, are these numbers consistance or do they begin to move? Because though somewhat thorough there are other factors to consider such as deaths and retirements, and a slight boost to welfare could reduce loss impact. If spending 60Bills Financial Index can change, could have been changing before hand. Did any workers leave the public sector for it? Did any hiring level's decrease? Are there new housewives or disabled entering the workforce messing with your unemployment. Did you reference the information at the proper time? <- As a corp becomes requested, then it exists and doesn't make any sales, then it does but doesn't record those until the following month. Of course that one is a bit farfetched. hmm... very peculiar. I think it is worth it, the high LLW population addition without efficiency upgrades could be messing your average salary up, but the numbers are probably just temporary. I'm done guessing now, that was fun =)

Crafty

Wednesday, September 19, 2012 - 05:35 pm Click here to edit this post
The numbers shown were after about a year of trading. I'm going to try and find which corp in which country it was today, I have quite a few!

I expect it was some some weird consequence of everything not being shown in real time. But if it isnt then I will update you again.

Lorelei

Wednesday, September 19, 2012 - 07:43 pm Click here to edit this post
Isn't Drew so smart? He makes me smile. He is our future and mine! Yup, you will join the list of those who will support me in my old age. You gots 5 years, Drew. Hurry and make millions!

Crafty

Thursday, September 20, 2012 - 12:48 am Click here to edit this post
I can report that the overall country finances have remained the same.

The SS payments have fallen as expected but the other contributions (health, ed and divi, and taxes from workers) have not fully recovered let alone improved. They have come back about 50%.

It about balances out.

I'm thinking new corps do effect business index while they mature, and it will take a while to be stable. Obviously business is production, corp welfare, etc etc.

Meh, unimportant, just mildly interesting doing the detective work.


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