Khome y Peng | Thursday, September 6, 2012 - 03:27 am I am curious where everybody stands on the economic issues. |
Lorelei | Thursday, September 6, 2012 - 04:20 pm They suck. |
maclean | Thursday, September 6, 2012 - 04:26 pm This sounds like you may be an agent for an unknown (at this point) entity, but what the heck . My own outlook is basically constitutional libertarian, pragmatically modified to accede to reality. Low taxes, low government spending, get out of the U.N., and slash the foreign aid budget for countries that turn on us at every opportunity. My view on economics has to include stronger states' rights, also, as the federal gov't has their fingers in too many pies as it is, most of them unconstitutional by a strict interpretation. Forcing states to comply with laws the states never voted on under penalty of de-funding the very emplacement of those laws, etc. So I guess you can judge by that how I think about the current economic situation and how it is being (mis-) handled. |
Khome y Peng | Friday, September 7, 2012 - 03:09 am ahhh I'm just wondering how many consider themselves capitalists or socialists here. |
Alexandrov Stolin | Friday, September 7, 2012 - 04:54 am I agree with maclean I consider myself capitalist although obviously America is always going to be considered socialist (technically) no nanny state required but social programs and regulating bussiness is good |
Khome y Peng | Friday, September 7, 2012 - 05:12 am The more I think about it, the more I realize that a mixed economy is the only way to succeed. My definition of success means, the benefit of the whole society, not just a select few who placed their bets right. |
Drew | Friday, September 7, 2012 - 06:38 am Ah I'm an anti-capitilist, and yet also frequently called a socialist yet I'm anti-socialist also. This is so often thought as a continuum but it really isn't. Just because they represent opposing views doesn't mean that they are opposite. The truth is the best solution is that, that leads to the greatest amount of oppurtunities to the masses, without making a disaster to the whole. |
Khome y Peng | Friday, September 7, 2012 - 03:04 pm True, so I think everybody can agree from every political background that in our current system, opportunities seem to evade most of us. |
Drew | Friday, September 7, 2012 - 07:43 pm I feel most of this problem comes from 2 things only though. Reagonomics works up to a point. Like umm... when we were chillin with a 90% tax rate many markets were well under their saturation point. And socialism works essentially pushing more people to the middle. Yet they both have MAJOR flaws with them. When we make policies each policy has to be voted in, so we were stuck with a hybrid and many policies are counter-productive. If left with a completelyy conservative agenda then we can fight the flaws of a cconservative agenda and the same is true with a socialist agenda. However with neither idea complete you can really target the flaws of eaither side. A perfect example of this is the affordable care act, the piece that makes this AFFORDABLE was the expansion of medicare yet that's the part that didn't go through. So now you have a somewhat inefficient policy for the US. Lack of cohension at the roots for sure |
Khome y Peng | Saturday, September 8, 2012 - 07:43 am Our legal system, for example, has made government inflexible beyond belief. Nothing can be accomplished anymore. Even in a free market system, there are so many regulations that are cast over many companies that not all of them can adjust. We have abandoned common sense in the name of streamlined legal formulaic compliance. (and before any of those snarky "I just read Atlas Shrugged for the first time" free market fanatics jump on this, socialism does not always mean strict government regulations) :p |
Drew | Saturday, September 8, 2012 - 08:11 am +1 |