| Drew | Wednesday, July 4, 2012 - 05:01 am 
would it be productive to take over a c3 for the sole purpose of trading execs for llw and mlw?
If true would it be even more productive to set educational priorities with this in mind?
If still true would this be productive at speeding up population gains, to a decent effect? |
| Madoff | Wednesday, July 4, 2012 - 05:26 am
I've taking the liberty of sending you a message to your mailbox on the portal, assuming "Drew" is the right contact name. |
| Drew | Wednesday, July 4, 2012 - 07:54 am
That should be the right name but I didn't recieve it. =( |
| Drew | Wednesday, July 4, 2012 - 09:05 am
but the nick was roko |
| Spiderman | Thursday, July 5, 2012 - 11:30 pm
get a hair cut, drew. that's my message to you. |
| Rick | Friday, July 6, 2012 - 12:47 am
A Spiderman telling Drew to get a haircut!
Reminds me of the 60s.  |
| Josias | Friday, July 6, 2012 - 04:14 am
yes to all three, but the third one is a bit tricky, i wouldn't rely on that. because you'll need all of workers, so you'll have to jack some things way up, and end up with problems later
the best way to do what your thinking, would be to use C3s to manhandle your work force into being what you want. you want to increase your EI? raid a C3, and before you do anything else, close the schools, wait a gm, then transfer out to get your teachers and professors. do the same with hospitals. once your get your ei at 150 or above, then start trading in HTS, lots and lots of HTS, and HLM, and HTE, and for good a WS, lots and lots of MLM. if you set your education priorities right, you can smooth it out nicely over time.
what your thinking, is that you way over educate, and use the high salary professionals to trade in for fresh llw. the thing i'd advise against that, don't turn this game into a job.
what you want in your country is HTS, HTX, EXE, HLM in your country making money, you really shouldn't make a strategy on trading them out. they are your countries economic back bone. |
| Drew | Sunday, July 8, 2012 - 06:33 am
I overeducate to get the welfare up so that my corps can build up faster a free 25% production without effect of salaries. but geez do those worker levels suffer. And I can't drop the execs down if i need to. But I think I've got a couple strategies to work out. And I can also see the massive time needed if done the wrong way |
| Orbiter | Monday, July 9, 2012 - 02:43 am
with out looking, i might offer an alternate suggestion. change your building plan, to build more of the heavy HTS via corps such as ammo upgrades, and ammo parts, even solid missle fuel can be really cool... but sounds like you do have a good plan! |
| Andy | Monday, July 9, 2012 - 08:32 am
Drew,
To increase production in corporations, you need to get the welfare index in these corporations as high as possible.
Part of it comes from the welfare index in the country. In that index, education is important but education > 120 does not add much. you need education >120 for other reasons.
you also need transportation > 120, health >120, and good supplies in the country (no shortages). All these are not too difficult to achieve.
The other major factor in the corporate welfare index is the salary level in the corporations.
This is a tricky one because increasing it to very high levels will increase the cost.
Up to some salary level, the increased level brings more revenue than the cost involved.
The effect is not linear. if you double the salaries you do not double their effect on the welfare index in the corporation.
example: if salaries go from a level of 400 to a level of 900 (this is extreme but does make the point), then the effect of the salary increase will be more like 2 to 3.
You increase salaries by 225% and you gain an increase in the welfare factor from salaries of 50%. The total effect on the welfare index is even less because the country welfare index remains unchanged.
At lower salary levels the increase in corporate salaries is clearly profitable. at very very high levels, it is not.
There is no general optimal level because it depends on the product price in the market and it is not the same for all types of corporations.
In recent months, as product pricing reduced with the generally declining numbers, salary cost, as a percentage of the total corporate cost, increased. (salaries remained unchanged while other costs declined). very high salaries are now less beneficial than before and the optimal salary level is now a little lower.
We do not know what the optimal level is and as I said, it depends on the market, product type and product quality!
I hope all this makes sense to you. |
| Drew | Tuesday, July 10, 2012 - 03:58 am
Thanks I got that lol. My ed level is my established countries are even over 200. Probably a bit excessive I know.
I've did my studying and hypothesis testing in this area already Andy, But thanks anyways. I've been tooling things a lot. Corporate welfare (salaries) + country welfare (ed, health etc)~ production.
So if i'm willing to let my country take the hit of boosting welfare levels with excess ed, health etc. My corps themselves will benefit, despite inefficient costs for my country. That's the move I was making. But let's say my ed is 224.22 ummm... some random # maybe... I notice that my worker shortages are ALWAYS LMH Level Workers, not managers, or high tech guys. Is this a proper coorelation? I've moving around this issue anyways, but when planning for the future it would be nice to know. Hypothetical situation if I had an education level of 450 (don't know if possible) would I gain any Low Level Workers if all 120 priority is spread out between the 12 other categories? |
| Orbiter | Tuesday, July 10, 2012 - 05:42 am
thats why i'm saying, if you have that high EI, make use of it by putting the higher salary workers, to work. if you are relying on raiding, for workers, then you will have to keep doing it. making it a job. use the advantage if raiding for certain boosts. using c3's for EI, and HI, and for stacking up extra HTS, thumbs up!! trading HTS, for llw? well it works, but you'll run across other problems, and you'll be stuck in having to do it more to dig out!! |
| Drew | Tuesday, July 10, 2012 - 02:58 pm
no i get you, thanks orbiter. i was just hoping to get some more math. The more math you get the more perfect you can plan. So I think my main questions are answered. And th higher ed is the less low level employees you get. I've really got to rank back up.
To get to 5 though, pop growth is far too slow. Oh well thanks everybody |
| Spiderman | Tuesday, July 10, 2012 - 05:35 pm
and what about the haircut? |
| Drew | Tuesday, July 10, 2012 - 10:26 pm
that pic is 4 years old, when i entered corporate America it got chopped off =( |
| Spiderman | Sunday, July 15, 2012 - 05:52 am
something about you triggers my spidey senses. i'm watching you. |
| Putter | Sunday, July 15, 2012 - 11:03 am
To Andy, let the game play and people help each other. Seriously. No offence intended. Its nice to see you are helping, but that, its better seeing players helping players. Thanks anyway. |
| Spiderman | Monday, July 16, 2012 - 11:06 pm
PS to Drew: change that picture to a more current one. i don't like this long haired one. oh i have been known to kill people for less reasons in this game. need i say more? :P
~a friendly message from your neighborhood spiderman |
| Spiderman | Wednesday, July 18, 2012 - 11:40 pm
DREW you have less than 24 hours to meet my above demands.
~ a friendly message (or is it?) from your neighborhood spiderman |
| Drew | Thursday, July 19, 2012 - 08:16 am
Spiderman is lame. I don't like it, change it.
Plus the most recent long haired male fashion choice resembles freedom of expression, disdain for authority, and a sense of simplistic values. It would be so hypocritical for me to cut it. You being a fascist goes against what I stand for, everything I'm about, so no I will not conform to your outlandish demand. Just as it's not right for me to tell you to change your immature uncreative alterego of spiderman. In which never demands anyone else to conform to something so non-utility |
| Spiderman | Thursday, July 19, 2012 - 10:54 am
Ugh....... someone who has NO sense of humor. I find your reply and name calling rather amusing and sad as well, Drew. You need to lighten up or you won't last long in this game. lol My posts were in fun, your reply seems rather mean spirited to me. Tsk tsk Shame on you. You must like being mean to girls.
Never fear, I won't waste my time goofing off with you any further. I dun like people who have no sense of humor.
But still... I say... CUT YOUR HAIR! wanna know why? cuz I can! ha ha ha aha You are welcome to dec me, if you like! (Thank Gawd for War Level 0! he he he)
~ your neighborhood spiderman or rather, SpiderWOMAN
PS.
My Simcountry purpose is now clear...to return and restore some good natured FUN to the forums and to chat... As I ALWAYS do, I unmask myself...
I am formerly known as Lorelei or KissOfDeath aka Jan to my game friends.
Nope, it ain't Peter Parker.... ha ha ha ha
Hello everyone. I have returned from my open heart surgery and my flirtation with death. Thanks for all your well wishes a month or so ago! I am home, recovering well, cut from neck to my belly button. lol I'm getting bored now..... I have to tell you though, I can only take so much Good Morning, America, The View, The Chew, The Doctors......UGH!!!! Daytime TV is worse than the surgery I underwent. ha ha ha I thought I would never say this.....I'm ready to go back to work!!! ha ha ha
Hope everyone is doing well!
Hugs and Muahs!
Jan
(a long-time simcountry game moron here - former game vet who excels in chat and oh.... i'm also a deadly warrioress)
PREPARE NOW TO MEET THY DEATH, DREW!!! YOU HAVE OFFENDETH ME AND NOW YOU WILL PAY! I'm deadly and to be feared. Ask anyone who knows me. ha ha ha ha |
| Keto | Thursday, July 19, 2012 - 03:57 pm
Welcome back Jan. I'm glad everything went with your operation. |
| Spiderman | Thursday, July 19, 2012 - 04:38 pm
Thank you, Keto. I was very fortunate, and it's good to be back. I lived so I could eternally plague you all in SimCountry. he he he I told Crafty I was too feisty and ornery to let it get the best of me! ha ha ha
I have had fun being spiderman. lol Poor Drew and that Jesus impersonator (SCOWL), they just dun know the extent of my bossiness. ha ha ha And as for Drew, I figure I'm old enough to be his Mom, and I say...... GET A DAYAM HAIRCUT! Dun give me none of that "individuality" and "express yourself" crap. lol I think I'll start a game poll, and the Sim community can put it to a vote! :-P |
| Serpent | Friday, July 20, 2012 - 05:15 am
I had a sssssneaky feeling it was you. Glad the operation went well. |
| Keto | Saturday, July 21, 2012 - 02:41 am
Don't you mean sssssssnakey feeling? |
| Serpent | Saturday, July 21, 2012 - 04:24 am
I dont know, but it was ssssssome sssssort of feeling! |
| Spiderman | Saturday, July 21, 2012 - 05:59 am
OMG Serpent, I forgot to tell you this. lol My cuz lives in a log cabin near the woods in the countryside outside Nashville. She has a lovely covered deck off the front of her cabin home. She has a daybed of sorts that serves as outdoor seating.
I get a call day before yesterday. She said she was lying on the bed, reading a book and heard something hitting up against the bed. She turned to the left and looked and there coming up through the back cushions next to her face was a black snake staring at her and its tongue slithering!!! It was a 3-foot long SNAKE. (Non poisonous) OMG OMG OMG She screamed and peed on herself. AND RAN!!! ha ha ha ha Good thing I wasn't there. I would have died instantly from heart failure lol
Thank you for your well wishes. |
| Crafty | Saturday, July 21, 2012 - 11:37 am
NEWS FLASH
Serpent caught stalking woman in Nashville. |
| Drew | Saturday, July 21, 2012 - 07:00 pm
Whatcha gonna do, it's no fun if I just ignore it right? That joke wasn't easy to play along with. Pick better one's |
| Spiderman | Sunday, July 22, 2012 - 04:27 am
Well, Drew Baby, if someone telling you to cut your hair or you gonna die, hits a chord wif you, you need to quit Sim Country now and the internet!!!!...if that is all it takes to put your lil panties in a wad. ha ha ha Furthermore, when you surpass the number of years and the vast game experience that I have and prestige in war and economy that I have in the game (ha ha ha), then you can earn the right to tell me what to do as in "pick better ones" (no apostrophe needed). Imma gonna do and say what I wanna. Whatcha gonna do???!!! lol
I have my eye on you, youngun. Beware. You have offended the legendary KissOfDeath.....otherwise known as the evil, deadly Lorelei!!! Prepare to meet thy doom!!!
PS. Get a hair cut! ha ha ha ha |
| Spiderman | Sunday, July 22, 2012 - 04:30 am
lol @ Crafty. That is too funny! |
| Drew | Monday, July 23, 2012 - 02:49 am
your just jealous, but its fine we all can't all be as irrestible and as free as I am. |
| Spiderman | Tuesday, July 24, 2012 - 01:01 am
Oh lordy. It is now very clear to me, Imma gonna have to kill him. lol |
| Orbiter | Tuesday, July 24, 2012 - 02:07 am
what other persons army are you going to use this time? |
| Spiderman | Tuesday, July 24, 2012 - 10:16 pm
hmmmm I haven't decided yet. You know darn well I will NOT mess up my newly manicured fingernails by actually fighting myself! That is just not the Lorelei way!
Perhaps your army????? |
| Orbiter | Tuesday, July 24, 2012 - 10:38 pm
well, i think my soldiers would revolt, if that happened |
| Jo Salkilld | Wednesday, July 25, 2012 - 02:39 am
Unfortunately, I'm finding it impossible to resist the urge to make the following comment:
Orbiter, your soldiers are already revolting
Hugs and respect
Jo |
| Orbiter | Wednesday, July 25, 2012 - 05:05 am
lol, i wonder if that has to do with my mass cloning program. millions of me with guns... i'm sure you'd find disturbing. |
| Lorelei | Thursday, July 26, 2012 - 12:30 am
You are lucky Josias. I have not returned to play, to kill, to annoy (although I think I hurt Drew's feelings - sowwy Drew). This is just an occassional stop in to say hello to peeps, while I'm home on medical leave recovering. You may rest easy lol |
| Serpent | Saturday, July 28, 2012 - 03:35 pm
Crafty.... to you it may be a 'news flash' that a serpent is stalking people, but to most its not! Muh hahahahah! |
| Crafty | Saturday, July 28, 2012 - 10:38 pm
You speak with forked tongue snakey one. |
