| Phoenix King | Thursday, June 7, 2012 - 08:50 pm 
Virtual Assets Disabled
The Virtual Assets System is disabled for a short period due to misuse.
The system will be reactivated as soon as possible.
I went to the page for vertual assets and this is what i saw. ^^
Is this in general for everybody or just me, I have not misused the assets transfer not once. And i do need this activated as soon as possible. I have been using asset transfer for some quick gold coins that i buy from people at a higher rate. Without this activated i have no way to buy gold coins becuase the current system for buying gold coins takes forever until its your turn.
GM please turn this feature back on as soon as possible please, it is crititcal to my country it is the main source for me to buy gold coins.
If this is for everybody than please clarify why it was turned off and why not just the ones who did the misuse.
If it was just me please let me know what i did. I have not misused the system. |
| Jo Salkilld | Thursday, June 7, 2012 - 08:51 pm
I got the same message as well, so it's not just you PK ... 
Hugs and respect
Jo |
| CrazyEye | Thursday, June 7, 2012 - 09:10 pm
How can you misuse Virtual Assets???? |
| Phoenix King | Thursday, June 7, 2012 - 10:13 pm
Many ways, off the top of my head someone could create multiple accounts and send themselves all the gold coin awards and game money that they receive but that would be ridiculous. Andy I use asset transfers for instant gold coin purchases please bring this feature back and ban those who where misusing it. |
| Andy | Thursday, June 7, 2012 - 10:34 pm
We will try to solve the problem ASAP.
It will however need some software development and comes at a time we are trying to complete some war features and improve the war game.
we have seen frequent problems for some time and it is hard to intercept them.
As I said, we will try to solve the problem ASAP. |
| Scarlet | Friday, June 8, 2012 - 08:55 am
Quote:Andy I use asset transfers for instant gold coin purchases please bring this feature back and ban those who where misusing it.
How are you sure that this isn't the "misuse" and you won't be banned by your request? |
| Orbiter | Friday, June 8, 2012 - 04:03 pm
well, wasn't the feature originally intended to allow us to buy/sell countries and such with real cash? or do i have this one wrong? |
| Phoenix King | Friday, June 8, 2012 - 09:05 pm
Why is it bad to by gold coins from other players using in game cash, i buy gold coins at 1T for 10 gold coins. Is this the misuse you where talking about andy or is it something else. I see no wrong in buying gold coins from other players at a higher rate when the market for gold coins takes eons to get just one gold coin, the waiting is what i do not like, with the instant transfer i do no waiting and buy from other players. Andy please let me know if this is the misuse you where talking about or is this fine to do. |
| Jo Salkilld | Friday, June 8, 2012 - 09:33 pm
The GMs have already advocated using virtual asset packages if you're not happy with the restricted market price available through direct trading, so I doubt that's the problem PK.
Hugs and respect
Jo |
| Phoenix King | Saturday, June 9, 2012 - 06:10 am
Cool |
| Crafty | Saturday, June 9, 2012 - 11:43 am
Maybe its the people bypassing the GM set minimum price for countries, by refunding a large proportion of the country cost?
There are a couple of GM imposed prices that could be bypassed this way, that would be my guess. |
| Redman | Sunday, June 10, 2012 - 02:47 am
I wonder why this happens Huh? Maybe Oppressive gm regulations and rules? |
| Laguna | Sunday, June 10, 2012 - 03:31 am
No. I'm thinking multiplayers. |
| maclean | Sunday, June 10, 2012 - 06:31 am
I have a pending GC transaction with one player, which cannot be completed because of this. A little warning would have been nice. I already paid him, and he can't send me a key. I guess me and my (real) money are just SOL until sometime, after developing war updates and then releasing them sometime, and after they get around to developing some programming sometime, and fixing the "problem" sometime.
Just as speculation, and for entertainment purposes only, if I was trying to further monopolize the GC trade, this is something that would work well... |
| maclean | Sunday, June 10, 2012 - 06:35 am
and Phoenix, as to why only the offending players were not banned, remember that, in the words of the great Tom T. Hall, "if you hang them all, you get the guilty; if you hang them all, you cannot miss".  |
| Phoenix King | Sunday, June 10, 2012 - 07:09 am
Haha lol nice and true as well, mind if I start using that quote Maclean. |
| maclean | Monday, June 11, 2012 - 07:44 pm
I would like to hear of a time table for this to get fixed. i did some massive spending, thinking my deal was going to go thru,and the player did come thru, and now my assets are frozen by a seemingly hostile entity. The game has made plenty of money off of me, and I think an explanation or redress of grievances is deserved. |
| maclean | Tuesday, June 12, 2012 - 09:09 pm
I know that it is possible for the GMs to go into the programming on an individual basis and "adjust" things like supply, etc., as per the supply fairy. My request to the GM is to enable my keys on a one-time basis so I can get my lawful property out of escrow. The assets made it into your system, then you shut it down. As the largest and richest empire on KB, and as a player who has contributed significant amounts of real money to your game, I request that my assets be made available. I am not going to go away. |
| Spiderman | Wednesday, June 13, 2012 - 04:11 pm
There are always a few bad apples who abuse the game, cheat, and ruin things for others.But never fear,Spiderman is here!!! To fight evil!! |
| Crafty | Wednesday, June 13, 2012 - 09:19 pm
I must say I feel for you Mac.
Any transaction that got caught in limbo like that should be honoured Andy. Excepting maybe the one that caused you to cut off this feature in the first place. |
| Phoenix King | Wednesday, June 13, 2012 - 11:14 pm
Andy will there be any clarification of what cuased the shuting down of asset transfer. It is important for me to get gold coins this way as the current gold coin market is really slow. |
| maclean | Thursday, June 14, 2012 - 07:55 am
@ Crafty: I think Andy will do the right thing, eventually, if in fact, Andy is the same person we have been having help us in the past, and not some new owner who kept the name as camoflage. There seems to be some question about this. Even if it is a new owner/GM, I think they should not underestimate the negative effect this will have on all players, if they can't ever trust the game system and if they know that they may at any moment be robbed. |
| Andy | Thursday, June 14, 2012 - 08:23 am
We did not get any mail from anyone who was caught in the middle of a transaction.
please mail the gamemaster if you have such a problem. |
| maclean | Thursday, June 14, 2012 - 11:33 pm
I have posted this problem and mentioned it several times in posts on this forum. I didn't realize I was not going thru proper channels. I know you know about this problem, because I have seen your replies to my posts in which I referenced this problem, although your replies did not ever address the issue of my assets in limbo. However, I am sending a message to Gamemaster officially, right now.Thanks for finally letting me know which hoops I have to jump thru to get this resolved. Thanks! I'd have done it sooner if I'd realized. |
| Phoenix King | Sunday, June 17, 2012 - 08:13 am
So any eta on the availability of asset transfers. |
| Crafty | Sunday, June 17, 2012 - 06:25 pm
I would like to know the specific problems that the GM were seeing. If that were known then it would be avoided by most all players and any transgressors would be few and easy for the GM to deal with individually, instead of depriving everyone of this feature.
Note the complaints of few available GC... well, there would be several thousand more floating around if you could asset transfer them.
Or is the problem bypassing the GMs set price caps...me thinks it must be. |
| maclean | Monday, June 18, 2012 - 10:22 am
+10 |
| Proteus | Tuesday, June 19, 2012 - 02:03 am
this is just for gc right I can still buy pop when I need it from direct trade? |
| Christopher Michael | Tuesday, June 19, 2012 - 02:14 am
+10
And yes, as of right now, you can still buy population....through the cash market, not direct trading. |
| Phoenix King | Wednesday, June 20, 2012 - 08:24 pm
+100 |
| Ambien | Tuesday, June 26, 2012 - 11:10 am
When is this to be re-established damm |
| Crafty | Tuesday, June 26, 2012 - 08:11 pm
When the software to correct the initial unknown problem is written and installed. |
| maclean | Wednesday, June 27, 2012 - 02:28 pm
and de-bugged and updated and firewalled and child-proofed. |
| Ambien | Friday, June 29, 2012 - 04:18 am
Back to the top |
| Ambien | Saturday, June 30, 2012 - 06:31 am
Why am I whineing an update would be nice. |
| Ambien | Monday, July 2, 2012 - 08:48 am
Three in a row. |
| Andy | Monday, July 2, 2012 - 03:35 pm
We are investigating some cases of fraud using the virtual assets function.
It is unclear what can be done to prevent such cases and as long as this remains unclear, the function cannot be restored. |
| Crafty | Monday, July 2, 2012 - 07:37 pm
Would it be possible to have W3C broker any asset trades for the time being, so being able to avoid any fraud? or would the work load be too much. I have no idea of the volume of virtual asset trades before the function was removed. |
| Ambien | Tuesday, July 3, 2012 - 08:00 am
Just have a use at your own risk policy |
| Rick | Tuesday, July 3, 2012 - 10:53 am
An "at your own risk policy" would seem fine.
Or, if it would curb the fraud..How about a temporary solution that would allow players to trade only SC$ or only GC.
Game wide, one or the other. Till you can resolve the problem.
This would at least allow players to help a Fed member or another player with temporary financial aid. |
| maclean | Monday, July 9, 2012 - 06:59 am
+10 rick |
| viper7j4z | Friday, July 13, 2012 - 05:14 am
Its Called GREED if at anytime anyone can get their hands on some ones real money then they will take it whether it be virtual or otherwise. Wake up people, anybody will steal anything at anytime if they want it bad enough |
| NiAi | Saturday, September 1, 2012 - 11:50 am
Any updates at all on this front. Is private exchange no longer considered a part of the game? |
| dboyd3702 | Tuesday, September 4, 2012 - 01:44 am
I have not heard or seen anything since July 2nd, I think the "short period" part has passed though... |
| NiAi | Sunday, February 3, 2013 - 10:05 am
5 months later:
Any updates at all on this front. Is private exchange no longer considered a part of the game? |
| Andy | Sunday, February 3, 2013 - 12:25 pm
For the time being, the feature will not come back.
There was gross misuse of this feature and there is currently no way to prevent it.
when we see a possibility to change it, or create a different feature that might return part of the functionality, we will implement it. |
| Crafty | Sunday, February 3, 2013 - 01:23 pm
Some small way of gifting money or coins to help others might be nice Andy. I mean you could limit it to maybe 5T or 50GC or some such per real week or month. Gross misuse must mean much larger amounts, and many times I would like to have been able to use the old feature in a small way. |
| maclean | Sunday, February 3, 2013 - 02:10 pm
And all of us who didn't 'abuse' it, are being punished along with everyone else. Bring back this option NOW! |
| Madoff | Sunday, February 3, 2013 - 07:59 pm
Andy, if you explain the specific abuse or fraud, players could suggest remedies and alternatives.
Some games have become popular by having features allowing players to engage in commerce. It's odd that Simcountry can't find a way to do this. |
| Serpent | Sunday, February 3, 2013 - 08:48 pm
Here we go again, Mr Madoff has some remedies to stop FRAUD and ABUSE!
Just joking Mr Madoff, Im sure you have some good suggestions. |
| NiAi | Friday, February 8, 2013 - 07:36 am
Thanks for the update Andy, albeit im a bit sad that you are not reintroducing this function. |
| SweetPea | Friday, February 8, 2013 - 01:50 pm
Yeah, it kind of goes against what was said previously Andy. It is easy to be upset when we don't understand the complete picture of what has caused the removal of virtual assets exchange.
With that said, the sale of gold coins is still entirely possible and I would like to make that known for those still interested in purchasing gold coins in bulk for a discount. I have a healthy supply and can deliver despite the setbacks. A few more clicks shouldn't discourage buyers. |
