| Scarlet | Saturday, May 5, 2012 - 09:08 am 
If you attack a player owning such a country, do you still need to paint 25 areas to win?
I remember being unable to conquer such a C3 awhile back. Not sure if I e-mailed the GMs about this at that point. |
| Andy | Saturday, May 5, 2012 - 10:12 am
I never saw a mail about this.
I don't remember how they compute the war index in such a case.
For sure you cannot conquer them all as a condition or otherwise it would be impossible to win a war.
I forwarded the text to an engineer and we will answer on Monday.
25 areas is very small. I wonder if this was taken into account. |
| Scarlet | Saturday, May 5, 2012 - 12:54 pm
To be fair, I'm referencing maybe 9 months ago... but I didn't find any game news or anything so I posted to see. |
| Andy | Monday, May 7, 2012 - 11:07 am
Scarlet,
can you give me the world name and country name you refer to.
There is indeed a problem if the country has 25 areas.
the problem is: you cannot conquer it because you need to conquer 25 areas!
we would like to see such a country and will then decide what to do and how or maybe leave it alone as a very privileged country. |
| Crafty | Monday, May 7, 2012 - 11:24 am
Andy, look at double top on GR. |
| Scarlet | Wednesday, May 9, 2012 - 06:48 am
https://sim04.simcountry.com/cgi-bin/cgi2nova?SN_ADDRESS=wwwCountry&SN_METHOD=countryhome&miCountryNumber=1378
This was the one I was referencing from 9 months ago. I'm sure there are many others as well, but I haven't been going out of my way to attack them.
Here's a list of other countries that seem questionable on Fearless Blue alone, but I haven't attacked to confirm the number of areas. I apologize if I put a country with slightly over 25 areas and I apologize if I missed countries (I'm sure there's a few that probably qualify that aren't on the list):
https://sim02.simcountry.com/cgi-bin/cgi2nova?SN_ADDRESS=wwwCountry&SN_METHOD=countryhome&miCountryNumber=4135
https://sim02.simcountry.com/cgi-bin/cgi2nova?SN_ADDRESS=wwwCountry&SN_METHOD=countryhome&miRegionNumber=63&miCountryNumber=4193
https://sim02.simcountry.com/cgi-bin/cgi2nova?SN_ADDRESS=wwwCountry&SN_METHOD=countryhome&miRegionNumber=1&miCountryNumber=40
https://sim02.simcountry.com/cgi-bin/cgi2nova?SN_ADDRESS=wwwCountry&SN_METHOD=countryhome&miRegionNumber=11&miCountryNumber=1068
https://sim02.simcountry.com/cgi-bin/cgi2nova?SN_ADDRESS=wwwCountry&SN_METHOD=countryhome&miRegionNumber=12&miCountryNumber=639
https://sim02.simcountry.com/cgi-bin/cgi2nova?SN_ADDRESS=wwwCountry&SN_METHOD=countryhome&miRegionNumber=15&miCountryNumber=1281
https://sim02.simcountry.com/cgi-bin/cgi2nova?SN_ADDRESS=wwwCountry&SN_METHOD=countryhome&miRegionNumber=21&miCountryNumber=1570
https://sim02.simcountry.com/cgi-bin/cgi2nova?SN_ADDRESS=wwwCountry&SN_METHOD=countryhome&miRegionNumber=21&miCountryNumber=1306
https://sim02.simcountry.com/cgi-bin/cgi2nova?SN_ADDRESS=wwwCountry&SN_METHOD=countryhome&miRegionNumber=23&miCountryNumber=1673
https://sim02.simcountry.com/cgi-bin/cgi2nova?SN_ADDRESS=wwwCountry&SN_METHOD=countryhome&miRegionNumber=32&miCountryNumber=2020
https://sim02.simcountry.com/cgi-bin/cgi2nova?SN_ADDRESS=wwwCountry&SN_METHOD=countryhome&miRegionNumber=33&miCountryNumber=2024
https://sim02.simcountry.com/cgi-bin/cgi2nova?SN_ADDRESS=wwwCountry&SN_METHOD=countryhome&miRegionNumber=34&miCountryNumber=2619
https://sim02.simcountry.com/cgi-bin/cgi2nova?SN_ADDRESS=wwwCountry&SN_METHOD=countryhome&miRegionNumber=43&miCountryNumber=3027
https://sim02.simcountry.com/cgi-bin/cgi2nova?SN_ADDRESS=wwwCountry&SN_METHOD=countryhome&miRegionNumber=46&miCountryNumber=3042
https://sim02.simcountry.com/cgi-bin/cgi2nova?SN_ADDRESS=wwwCountry&SN_METHOD=countryhome&miRegionNumber=46&miCountryNumber=3657
https://sim02.simcountry.com/cgi-bin/cgi2nova?SN_ADDRESS=wwwCountry&SN_METHOD=countryhome&miRegionNumber=47&miCountryNumber=3272
https://sim02.simcountry.com/cgi-bin/cgi2nova?SN_ADDRESS=wwwCountry&SN_METHOD=countryhome&miRegionNumber=48&miCountryNumber=3331
https://sim02.simcountry.com/cgi-bin/cgi2nova?SN_ADDRESS=wwwCountry&SN_METHOD=countryhome&miRegionNumber=50&miCountryNumber=3186
https://sim02.simcountry.com/cgi-bin/cgi2nova?SN_ADDRESS=wwwCountry&SN_METHOD=countryhome&miRegionNumber=58&miCountryNumber=4042
https://sim02.simcountry.com/cgi-bin/cgi2nova?SN_ADDRESS=wwwCountry&SN_METHOD=countryhome&miRegionNumber=62&miCountryNumber=4455
https://sim02.simcountry.com/cgi-bin/cgi2nova?SN_ADDRESS=wwwCountry&SN_METHOD=countryhome&miRegionNumber=62&miCountryNumber=4288
https://sim02.simcountry.com/cgi-bin/cgi2nova?SN_ADDRESS=wwwCountry&SN_METHOD=countryhome&miCountryNumber=4176
https://sim02.simcountry.com/cgi-bin/cgi2nova?SN_ADDRESS=wwwCountry&SN_METHOD=countryhome&miRegionNumber=64&miCountryNumber=4646
https://sim02.simcountry.com/cgi-bin/cgi2nova?SN_ADDRESS=wwwCountry&SN_METHOD=countryhome&miRegionNumber=68&miCountryNumber=4760
https://sim02.simcountry.com/cgi-bin/cgi2nova?SN_ADDRESS=wwwCountry&SN_METHOD=countryhome&miRegionNumber=71&miCountryNumber=4947
https://sim02.simcountry.com/cgi-bin/cgi2nova?SN_ADDRESS=wwwCountry&SN_METHOD=countryhome&miRegionNumber=71&miCountryNumber=4943
https://sim02.simcountry.com/cgi-bin/cgi2nova?SN_ADDRESS=wwwCountry&SN_METHOD=countryhome&miRegionNumber=72&miCountryNumber=4637
https://sim02.simcountry.com/cgi-bin/cgi2nova?SN_ADDRESS=wwwCountry&SN_METHOD=countryhome&miRegionNumber=75&miCountryNumber=5654
https://sim02.simcountry.com/cgi-bin/cgi2nova?SN_ADDRESS=wwwCountry&SN_METHOD=countryhome&miRegionNumber=77&miCountryNumber=5542
https://sim02.simcountry.com/cgi-bin/cgi2nova?SN_ADDRESS=wwwCountry&SN_METHOD=countryhome&miRegionNumber=79&miCountryNumber=5369
https://sim02.simcountry.com/cgi-bin/cgi2nova?SN_ADDRESS=wwwCountry&SN_METHOD=countryhome&miRegionNumber=83&miCountryNumber=6071
https://sim02.simcountry.com/cgi-bin/cgi2nova?SN_ADDRESS=wwwCountry&SN_METHOD=countryhome&miRegionNumber=86&miCountryNumber=5563
https://sim02.simcountry.com/cgi-bin/cgi2nova?SN_ADDRESS=wwwCountry&SN_METHOD=countryhome&miCountryNumber=4306
There are plenty of these countries and even more with less than 75 areas. I wouldn't mind using these "privileged countries" to attack without being able to lose. I think I'd really mind someone using these "privileged countries" to attack me though. |
| Andy | Wednesday, May 9, 2012 - 03:40 pm
We checked the one country.
It is a tiny area and should have been excluded.
we do not have a solution for it right now and indeed, the country cannot be conquered.
however, it can be attacked and everything can be destroyed.
the only thing that does not happen is: it is not conquered. |
| Scarlet | Wednesday, May 9, 2012 - 08:54 pm
I would've figured the easiest solution would be have the system check the total number of areas in the country and make each area worth say 40 / # of areas (like forts and corps) while retaining the current 30 points max and 10 points min for area conquest. That way 75% of the areas would be worth 30 points and 25% of the areas would be worth 10 points... and all countries could be conquered. Not sure that this harms game balance all that much. Larger countries would be more difficult to conquer the areas sure, but as far as painting and counter-painting/paint-blocking it's probably about the same amount of player effort no matter how many areas, in my opinion at least. Maybe you guys disagree.
Anyway, I await to see what is done, if anything. |
