| SuperSoldierRCP (Little Upsilon) | Sunday, December 11, 2011 - 11:28 am 
Your country has more than 3.00T SC$ of negative cash.
Please transfer cash to your country.
Isn't that a little harsh? i spend that in 1game month. I have no loans in that nation either |
| Andy | Sunday, December 11, 2011 - 12:16 pm
If you do not have any loans than a loan will be taken and cover the negative cash.
Negative cash should not occur and must be corrected, either by a loan or by moving cash from other sources (countries and your account). |
| SuperSoldierRCP (Fearless Blue) | Sunday, December 11, 2011 - 10:16 pm
Your missing the point i'm making Andy. I buy 9T in weapons like i drink water. I happened to miscount and it pushed me 3.5T in neg cash. I got blocked from my nation. I tried no matter what i couldn't log in, it never TOOK A SINGLE LOAN and yet i was blocked. Pretty much if anyone buys high Q weapons in mass they are to get blocked that's really harsh when we spend T a month on buying. Negivitve cash should be much higher -5T before blocked(excluding the 16T in loans). On FB to buy 350Q @ current spending limits is 9T in one month your telling me if i'm a few T off when transferring cash i get locked out for a short time? |
| Blueserpent | Sunday, December 11, 2011 - 10:34 pm
put more cash in ur country.....simples  |
| SuperSoldierRCP (Fearless Blue) | Sunday, December 11, 2011 - 11:02 pm
ok let me explain father.)
Lets say a person has 1-2nations. Has 5T but buys 3.50Q. He/she goes 3.5T in debt. He/she only has 2nations and let say that nation has 2T in cash. Now they locked out of there nation, they in debt so they cant get cash viva the Direct market(because debt/neg cash prevents you from trading). Any if they not on any other worlds they are screwed.
Im ok with blocking to a certain point.
BUT!!!!
MY POINT IS i was blocked when i has a few T after buying weapons. It was a bam blocked. What if your in war and you need that stuff desperately then you get locked out?. If you max your loan limit and keep borrowing then ya block someone. But blocking a Player with NO loans and a few T neg cash is really harsh. Look @ the vets/experienced players they sometimes go into debt when buying. |
| Arccuk (White Giant) | Sunday, December 11, 2011 - 11:31 pm
I had a similar problem to the one you describe supersoldier.
I have just three countries and in one month 2 of those countries went -3T into debt. Yes i know it was most likely my fault, although there were circumstances surrounding the sudden debt that I have not been able to explain (prove).
The the most annoying thing at the time was that both countries I was locked out from had plenty of strategic stock and so could have bought themselves out of debt easily. The one remaining country I had access to saved the day, despite also being in debt due to the same dubious circumstance.
My question is what would have happened if ALL my countries had been locked?
I agree with you supersoldier, this is a feature of the game that could do with a review. Perhaps limited access to sell assets within the effected country?
I prefer not to be locked out from any country I've worked hard to improve, in any circumstance. |
| Tom Morgan (Kebir Blue) | Monday, December 12, 2011 - 12:58 am
I guess the blocking out of a country completely is a bit harsh... If a player is in a war and has to buy loads of weapons, the last thing on his/her mind would be paying off debt. All of the points above are good. |
| WitchyPoo (Fearless Blue) | Monday, December 12, 2011 - 06:59 am
Unfortunately here, this point is sorely misrepresented. You can at any point use GC to buy cash to pay off loans. You are restricted from using the cash market and the limitation was put in place in order to prevent certain abuses. Under no circumstance is a country blocked. Rather a player is blocked. The only thing that is blocked is everything not having to do with taking care of X amount of debt. You can exchange coins for cash in any situation to pay for the debt. This was misrepresented.
I think the problem is that your regs were due and you didn't have the cash to exchange for coins to extend your entities, correct? The CM is blocked in this instance and if you have loans then you cannot exchange cash back to coins in order to extend your enterprises. Unless I am mistaken is that what you mean by locked out of a country?
Because this...
Quote:Now they locked out of there nation, they in debt so they cant get cash viva the Direct market(because debt/neg cash prevents you from trading).
...should be impossible. You can get cash if you have the coins available regardless of debt. |
| WitchyPoo (Fearless Blue) | Monday, December 12, 2011 - 07:01 am
And really, negative cash is a loan.... or at least will be, why should this be ignored? |
| Negative911 (Kebir Blue) | Monday, December 12, 2011 - 11:34 am
QUESTION WHY ARE U GUYS USEING MY NAME SO MUCH(LOL) |
| Arccuk (White Giant) | Monday, December 12, 2011 - 06:25 pm
Witchypoo, good point, well made and it was not my intention to mis-represent anything.
In this instance I DID have coins to repay some of the debt if it had been necessary but, as a fairly new player, they are in short supply in my - only - empire (reg due March 2012). My point was that the strategic stock within the affected countries was the problem. I couldn't access the stock and therefore could not sell it. I won't try to explain how the countries went into debt here as it something of a puzzle, suffice to say it was sudden and unexpected.
I do not dispute that there is a case for limited access to countries in heavy debt but I do question the need to totally block access to the country by the player. To do this takes away the ability to make the decision on how to recover the debt. I am also disappointed that the limit is so low before access is blocked.
By stating that access to a country is blocked I mean just that. When attempting to select the country from "my countries" page the player is confronted by the message:
Your country has more than 3.00T SC$ of negative cash.
Please transfer cash to your country.
and bounced straight back to the country selection. I repeat my question, if ALL my countries are blocked (and I have no coins!), how would I repay the debt? Perhaps it is not possible to have ALL countries blocked, I don't know. Is anyone willing to test this? ;)
I believe there are many options that could be implemented instead, including limited access to sell stock or convert negative cash into loans to name just two. |
