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Wednesday, August 3, 2011 - 11:53 pm  WHY WHY!!! Ive been losing cash from my CEO for 2weeks now even though i make a profit and i get no response from the GM what the hell is going on??? Am i the only person with this issue?
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| Wednesday, August 3, 2011 - 11:58 pm What is the name of your enterprise?
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Thursday, August 4, 2011 - 12:16 am
Nope. I have had the same problem. Profits are okay but more money than I am making is being pumped in to corps and it's costing a small fortune each month.
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| Thursday, August 4, 2011 - 01:41 am Same thing here. The listed profits appear to be false. Supply (or salary) costs appear to be about 12.5% higher than what is reported. It is very difficult to track without having the 'server-side' interface to see all the data, but using a new corporation that had no sales and one world month production, it appeared that this was the cause. On top of that, if enterprise profits are falsely high, then the 'Enterprise Tax' would also be charging extra. Here is an example: An enterprise called "Good, Bad and Ugly"" say has about 500 corporations. "The Good" Each corporation is doing OK, but not great, and say they make about 4.5B SC$ in sales per world month (about 54B SC$ per world year). Costs are "reported" at say 4B SC$ per world month, for a "profit" of 0.5B SC$ (or 500M SC$). OK, so that looks pretty good, and the enterprise then would have 500 of those corporations, and would report monthly profits of about 250B SC$. The 'Enterprise Tax' then would charge some amount, probably around 50B SC$. So, you would think that things are going reasonably OK, you are making 250B SC$ gross (enterprise) profit, then 200B SC$ net (enterprise) profit. At six 'spins' per [earth] day, that's about 1.2T SC$ net cash increase, and you'd probably be pretty happy with that result. "The Bad" But, what actually appears to happen, is that "costs" are under-reported, probably from the supplies purchases (though salaries could be a factor also). In the same case, what you would have is, the 500 corporations actually spending about 12.5% more on supplies/salaries, which would raise the "actual" costs from 4B to 4.5B SC$ per world month, and that would then equal the sales total, making --0-- profit per corporation. Total enterprise profit would then also be --0--, but, since the enterprise falsely over-reports profits, the 'Enterprise Tax' still charges you the 50B SC$, so you end up losing that amount. At six 'spins' per [earth] day that's about 300B SC$ losses to enterprise cash. "The Ugly" The difference then, between the two would be +1.2T SC$ (should have received) vs -300B SC$ (actually paid), for a total net loss of about 1.5T SC$ per [earth] day. ("..and, not as Ugly...") In the case of 4 'spins', the numbers would just be reduced by 33% both ways, so total losses would be about 1T SC$ instead.
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| Thursday, August 4, 2011 - 11:03 am fix your ugly or shut down the ugly 0% profit payment is better If you want the money you must get the power. So if you have stuff that don't have power you can't get the money first you get the power then come the money never forget that stop at 300 quality any more and you waste the money also the power does cost some aka upgrades
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| Thursday, August 4, 2011 - 02:25 pm Matt, your superlative balladry make one recall the effulgent works of Homer, Virgil, Milton, and LittleHitler.
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| Thursday, August 4, 2011 - 03:50 pm also, often i can check a corp that says its making money, but it keeps taking out loans. because the cash level just is not going up. even though the corp may have always been making a profit.
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| Thursday, August 4, 2011 - 05:28 pm nope scarface
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| Thursday, August 4, 2011 - 05:40 pm lmao BC...
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| Thursday, August 4, 2011 - 05:52 pm I agree super. They need to look into this.
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| Friday, August 5, 2011 - 06:26 am I guess it got fixed.
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| Friday, August 5, 2011 - 08:31 am We checked many corporations and we see no systematic problem. there was also no change recently that could cause this. short term, corporate profit does not correlate to corporate cash. Long term it does. Corporations buy raw materials in large quantities and also, the cost of upgrades goes off the cash, not influencing the profit. We will keep watching it.
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| Friday, August 5, 2011 - 08:40 am So Tom, what would you put 4 enterprises going from profitable with no cash flow issues to still profitable but losing billions and products which sold with no problems on a commonly used trade strategy now do not sell for several months? It isn't the purchase of raw materials which has caused these problems and it isn't upgrades being bought. I am now losing several trillion a day and I would like to know why.
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| Friday, August 5, 2011 - 08:48 am https://sim05.simcountry.com/cgi-bin/cgi2nova?SN_ADDRESS=wwwCountry&SN_METHOD=w3graph&miTable=enthist&miKey=6847&miColumn=vEnterpriseCash https://sim05.simcountry.com/cgi-bin/cgi2nova?SN_ADDRESS=wwwCountry&SN_METHOD=w3graph&miTable=enthist&miKey=6847&miColumn=vEnterpriseMonthProfit The first link shows cash loss. Second shows how i'm making a profit. Id like to know how im making 200B according to your system but i'm reality i'm losing that plus 80B monthly?
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| Sunday, August 7, 2011 - 05:25 pm Last Month Cash 3,682.01B SC$ Interest Received 0.00B SC$ Interest Paid 0.00B SC$ Loan Paybacks Received 0.00B SC$ New Loans Taken 0.00B SC$ Loans Paid Back 0.00B SC$ New Loans Given 0.00B SC$ Cost of Setting Up New Corporations 0.00B SC$ Corporations bought, closed or moved and Enterprise Tax -368.83B SC$ Income from Selling Corporations 0.00B SC$ Cash from Closed Corporations 0.00B SC$ Materials Purchased on the Market 0.00B SC$ Materials Sold on the Market 0.00B SC$ Raw Materials Purchased from own Corporations 0.00B SC$ Raw Materials Sold to own Corporations 0.00B SC$ Cash Transfers To and From Corporations -205.00B SC$ Profit Payments and Cash Transfers 261.65B SC$ Bonuses and Awards 0.00B SC$ Cost of Financial Services 0.00B SC$ Cash Exchanged for Gold Coins 0.00B SC$ Income/Cost of Shares 0.00B SC$ Income from Dividend from Public Corporations 0.00B SC$ Cash Available 3,369.83B SC$ Tom, you didn't check enough corporations or you are blind to the problem, which is it? The figures above are a typical month's profit/loss for several enterprises on several worlds. There is clearly a problem, so how about you admit it and fix it?
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| Sunday, August 7, 2011 - 05:27 pm Incidentally, no corporations were bought, sold or moved - Enterprise tax is being miscalculated and not in a beneficial way.
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| Sunday, August 7, 2011 - 05:47 pm I'm not seeing any of this. 2 LU CEOs, 2 KB ones. I think you need to look a bit more carefully at trends and the figures, I'm not sure. Whats your CEO name kite, and if you want I can see if I can find anything, two heads is always better than one.
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| Sunday, August 7, 2011 - 07:08 pm Thanks CC. Those figures are from Solar Holdings on LU.
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| Sunday, August 7, 2011 - 07:29 pm Seeing the same here. Two countries, little if any change in settings, number of corps, infrastructure, etc., but have had a drop from 40 to 60% in profit for a few game months now, spec. from enterprise corps.
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| Sunday, August 7, 2011 - 11:07 pm Taxes paid by Citizens 47,964.98M SC$ Health Contributions and Cost 16,773.74M SC$ 19,763.90M SC$ Education Contributions and Cost 8,981.98M SC$ 11,990.61M SC$ Interest on Outstanding Loans 0.00M SC$ 0.00M SC$ Taxes paid by Corporations 79,037.01M SC$ Profit paid by State Owned Corporations 0.00M SC$ Income from Enterprises 51,892.18M SC$ Social Security Payments 22,441.91M SC$ Transportation System 8,013.53M SC$ General Cost of Government 32,974.01M SC$ Total Defense Cost 1,769.84M SC$ Income from Dividend 0.00M SC$ Beginners Income Booster 0.00M SC$ Total Income and Cost 204,649.90M SC$ 96,953.79M SC$ Profit / Shortage 107,696.10M SC$ 54 state corps in this country, including air transport, chemicals, electric power, household products and oil. yet not a single penny was paid in profit transfer - which is set to 95%. Please don't insult our collective intelligence any further, Tom.
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| Sunday, August 7, 2011 - 11:37 pm the only way ud not be making many money is they not making money themselves
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| Monday, August 8, 2011 - 12:52 am Flashes of Klarina of Klarina. I've never known of anyone else to put Tom on Blast and in turn he lays down and takes it lol.
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Monday, August 8, 2011 - 01:34 am
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| Monday, August 8, 2011 - 03:14 am Lol!
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| Monday, August 8, 2011 - 10:53 pm I'm Klarina? Tsk... you thought I was someone else before, and you were wrong. Last Month Cash 2,345.44B SC$ Interest Received 0.00B SC$ Interest Paid 0.00B SC$ Loan Paybacks Received 0.00B SC$ New Loans Taken 0.00B SC$ Loans Paid Back 0.00B SC$ New Loans Given 0.00B SC$ Cost of Setting Up New Corporations 0.00B SC$ Corporations bought, closed or moved and Enterprise Tax -49.62B SC$ Income from Selling Corporations 0.00B SC$ Cash from Closed Corporations 0.00B SC$ Materials Purchased on the Market 0.00B SC$ Materials Sold on the Market 0.00B SC$ Raw Materials Purchased from own Corporations 0.00B SC$ Raw Materials Sold to own Corporations 0.00B SC$ Cash Transfers To and From Corporations -205.00B SC$ Profit Payments and Cash Transfers 162.05B SC$ Bonuses and Awards 0.00B SC$ Cost of Financial Services 0.00B SC$ Cash Exchanged for Gold Coins 0.00B SC$ Income/Cost of Shares 0.00B SC$ Income from Dividend from Public Corporations 0.00B SC$ Cash Available 2,252.87B SC$ At least Enterprise Tax looks correct this time. I haven't done anything which affects cash flow since my previous set of figures were posted - this means that my LU enterprise has lost approximately 1.4T in just over 24 hours. As I mentioned before, this problem has been going on for some time now and on 3 different worlds. The cost runs into trillions - I hope Laguna is right and the lost cash is returned, but somehow I doubt it very much. After all, we haven't even had acknowledgement of a problem, nevermind an apology or a pledge to fix it as soon as possible.
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| Monday, August 8, 2011 - 11:09 pm Rainy Days on GR: Last Month Cash 1,507.31B SC$ Interest Received 0.00B SC$ Interest Paid 0.00B SC$ Loan Paybacks Received 0.00B SC$ New Loans Taken 0.00B SC$ Loans Paid Back 0.00B SC$ New Loans Given 0.00B SC$ Cost of Setting Up New Corporations 0.00B SC$ Corporations bought, closed or moved and Enterprise Tax -66.93B SC$ Income from Selling Corporations 0.00B SC$ Cash from Closed Corporations 0.00B SC$ Materials Purchased on the Market 0.00B SC$ Materials Sold on the Market 0.00B SC$ Raw Materials Purchased from own Corporations 0.00B SC$ Raw Materials Sold to own Corporations 0.00B SC$ Cash Transfers To and From Corporations -240.00B SC$ Profit Payments and Cash Transfers 163.92B SC$ Bonuses and Awards 0.00B SC$ Cost of Financial Services 0.00B SC$ Cash Exchanged for Gold Coins 0.00B SC$ Income/Cost of Shares 0.00B SC$ Income from Dividend from Public Corporations 0.00B SC$ Cash Available 1,364.31B SC$ Global Ventures on KB: Last Month Cash 4,390.10B SC$ Interest Received 0.00B SC$ Interest Paid 0.00B SC$ Loan Paybacks Received 0.00B SC$ New Loans Taken 0.00B SC$ Loans Paid Back 0.00B SC$ New Loans Given 0.00B SC$ Cost of Setting Up New Corporations 0.00B SC$ Corporations bought, closed or moved and Enterprise Tax -80.87B SC$ Income from Selling Corporations 0.00B SC$ Cash from Closed Corporations 0.00B SC$ Materials Purchased on the Market 0.00B SC$ Materials Sold on the Market 0.00B SC$ Raw Materials Purchased from own Corporations 0.00B SC$ Raw Materials Sold to own Corporations 0.00B SC$ Cash Transfers To and From Corporations -180.00B SC$ Profit Payments and Cash Transfers 217.18B SC$ Bonuses and Awards 0.00B SC$ Cost of Financial Services 0.00B SC$ Cash Exchanged for Gold Coins 0.00B SC$ Income/Cost of Shares 0.00B SC$ Income from Dividend from Public Corporations 0.00B SC$ Cash Available 4,346.41B SC$ Spark on KB: Last Month Cash 2,855.43B SC$ Interest Received 0.00B SC$ Interest Paid 0.00B SC$ Loan Paybacks Received 0.00B SC$ New Loans Taken 0.00B SC$ Loans Paid Back 0.00B SC$ New Loans Given 0.00B SC$ Cost of Setting Up New Corporations 0.00B SC$ Corporations bought, closed or moved and Enterprise Tax -39.54B SC$ Income from Selling Corporations 0.00B SC$ Cash from Closed Corporations 0.00B SC$ Materials Purchased on the Market 0.00B SC$ Materials Sold on the Market 0.00B SC$ Raw Materials Purchased from own Corporations 0.00B SC$ Raw Materials Sold to own Corporations 0.00B SC$ Cash Transfers To and From Corporations -240.00B SC$ Profit Payments and Cash Transfers 99.78B SC$ Bonuses and Awards 0.00B SC$ Cost of Financial Services 0.00B SC$ Cash Exchanged for Gold Coins 0.00B SC$ Income/Cost of Shares 0.00B SC$ Income from Dividend from Public Corporations 0.00B SC$ Cash Available 2,675.67B SC$ Gamemaster, do you think this problem could be fixed before I run out of GCs?
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| Tuesday, August 9, 2011 - 01:07 am Spark - Cash Transfers To and From Corporations -240.00B SC$ Corporations bought, closed or moved and Enterprise Tax -39.54B SC$ Profit Payments and Cash Transfers 99.78B SC$ totals = -179.76B Last Month Cash 2,855.43B SC$ less Cash Available 2,675.67B SC$ totals = -179.76B Hence it would appear that the problem doesn't really exist, only that you are transferring a lot of money to your corps. Maybe you have profit transfer too high? A lot of corps there are still young and spending cash on upgrades. Hope that puts you in the right direction.
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| Tuesday, August 9, 2011 - 01:11 am I just checked, the same maths applies to your other two enterprises as well.
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| Tuesday, August 9, 2011 - 09:42 am I'm not convinced there is no problem. Global Ventures, after profit transfer had been reduced from 80% to 50%: Last Month Cash 4,080.04B SC$ Interest Received 0.00B SC$ Interest Paid 0.00B SC$ Loan Paybacks Received 0.00B SC$ New Loans Taken 0.00B SC$ Loans Paid Back 0.00B SC$ New Loans Given 0.00B SC$ Cost of Setting Up New Corporations 0.00B SC$ Corporations bought, closed or moved and Enterprise Tax -35.36B SC$ Income from Selling Corporations 0.00B SC$ Cash from Closed Corporations 0.00B SC$ Materials Purchased on the Market 0.00B SC$ Materials Sold on the Market 0.00B SC$ Raw Materials Purchased from own Corporations 0.00B SC$ Raw Materials Sold to own Corporations 0.00B SC$ Cash Transfers To and From Corporations -250.00B SC$ Profit Payments and Cash Transfers 0.17B SC$ Bonuses and Awards 0.00B SC$ Cost of Financial Services 0.00B SC$ Cash Exchanged for Gold Coins 0.00B SC$ Income/Cost of Shares 0.00B SC$ Income from Dividend from Public Corporations 0.00B SC$ Cash Available 3,794.85B SC$ There is definitely a problem on LU with products not selling. The trading strategy I use was doing just fine until recently. Now, red products are not selling for several months. Sort it out, Gamemaster. WE PAY TO PLAY THIS GAME.
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| Tuesday, August 9, 2011 - 05:02 pm Flashes... Solaris, Flashes only. I'm sure you were someone we all recognize, before you were Solaris. This much I am confident in.
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| Tuesday, August 9, 2011 - 05:16 pm Rainy Days on GR: Last Month Cash 1,223.99B SC$ Interest Received 0.00B SC$ Interest Paid 0.00B SC$ Loan Paybacks Received 0.00B SC$ New Loans Taken 0.00B SC$ Loans Paid Back 0.00B SC$ New Loans Given 0.00B SC$ Cost of Setting Up New Corporations 0.00B SC$ Corporations bought, closed or moved and Enterprise Tax -104.23B SC$ Income from Selling Corporations 0.00B SC$ Cash from Closed Corporations 0.00B SC$ Materials Purchased on the Market 0.00B SC$ Materials Sold on the Market 0.00B SC$ Raw Materials Purchased from own Corporations 0.00B SC$ Raw Materials Sold to own Corporations 0.00B SC$ Cash Transfers To and From Corporations -195.00B SC$ Profit Payments and Cash Transfers 195.71B SC$ Bonuses and Awards 0.00B SC$ Cost of Financial Services 0.00B SC$ Cash Exchanged for Gold Coins 0.00B SC$ Income/Cost of Shares 0.00B SC$ Income from Dividend from Public Corporations 0.00B SC$ Cash Available 1,120.48B SC$ Total Employed 79,733,066 Average Salary per Worker per Month 6,382.00 SC$ Total Production 2,079.97B SC$ Cash Flow - Totals in All Corporations Total Turnover - Products Sold 2,315.22B SC$ Total Salaries -508.86B SC$ Total Materials Cost -537.64B SC$ Total Interest Paid -0.00B SC$ Paid to Countries for Resources Used -659.11B SC$ Total Fixed Cost -45.56B SC$ Total Maintenance Cost -86.83B SC$ Total Profit 477.21B SC$ Profit Transfer 50% Global Ventures on KB: Last Month Cash 3,574.72B SC$ Interest Received 0.00B SC$ Interest Paid 0.00B SC$ Loan Paybacks Received 0.00B SC$ New Loans Taken 0.00B SC$ Loans Paid Back 0.00B SC$ New Loans Given 0.00B SC$ Cost of Setting Up New Corporations 0.00B SC$ Corporations bought, closed or moved and Enterprise Tax -42.52B SC$ Income from Selling Corporations 0.00B SC$ Cash from Closed Corporations 0.00B SC$ Materials Purchased on the Market 0.00B SC$ Materials Sold on the Market 0.00B SC$ Raw Materials Purchased from own Corporations 0.00B SC$ Raw Materials Sold to own Corporations 0.00B SC$ Cash Transfers To and From Corporations -100.00B SC$ Profit Payments and Cash Transfers 3.24B SC$ Bonuses and Awards 0.00B SC$ Cost of Financial Services 0.00B SC$ Cash Exchanged for Gold Coins 0.00B SC$ Income/Cost of Shares 0.00B SC$ Income from Dividend from Public Corporations 0.00B SC$ Cash Available 3,435.44B SC$ Total Employed 103,289,818 Average Salary per Worker per Month 6,300.00 SC$ Total Production 2,846.59B SC$ Cash Flow - Totals in All Corporations Total Turnover - Products Sold 2,791.64B SC$ Total Salaries -650.68B SC$ Total Materials Cost -833.11B SC$ Total Interest Paid 0.00B SC$ Paid to Countries for Resources Used -812.46B SC$ Total Fixed Cost -62.71B SC$ Total Maintenance Cost -117.07B SC$ Total Profit 315.61B SC$ Profit Transfer 50% Spark on KB: Last Month Cash 2,843.76B SC$ Interest Received 0.00B SC$ Interest Paid 0.00B SC$ Loan Paybacks Received 0.00B SC$ New Loans Taken 0.00B SC$ Loans Paid Back 0.00B SC$ New Loans Given 0.00B SC$ Cost of Setting Up New Corporations 0.00B SC$ Corporations bought, closed or moved and Enterprise Tax -28.25B SC$ Income from Selling Corporations 0.00B SC$ Cash from Closed Corporations 0.00B SC$ Materials Purchased on the Market 0.00B SC$ Materials Sold on the Market 0.00B SC$ Raw Materials Purchased from own Corporations 0.00B SC$ Raw Materials Sold to own Corporations 0.00B SC$ Cash Transfers To and From Corporations -165.00B SC$ Profit Payments and Cash Transfers 0.00B SC$ Bonuses and Awards 0.00B SC$ Cost of Financial Services 0.00B SC$ Cash Exchanged for Gold Coins 0.00B SC$ Income/Cost of Shares 0.00B SC$ Income from Dividend from Public Corporations 0.00B SC$ Cash Available 2,650.50B SC$ Total Employed 65,176,672 Average Salary per Worker per Month 5,846.00 SC$ Total Production 1,888.35B SC$ Cash Flow - Totals in All Corporations Total Turnover - Products Sold 1,755.09B SC$ Total Salaries -381.04B SC$ Total Materials Cost -479.27B SC$ Total Interest Paid 0.00B SC$ Paid to Countries for Resources Used -542.68B SC$ Total Fixed Cost -36.51B SC$ Total Maintenance Cost -72.03B SC$ Total Profit 243.57B SC$ Profit Transfer 50% Solar Holdings on LU: Last Month Cash 1,911.47B SC$ Interest Received 0.00B SC$ Interest Paid 0.00B SC$ Loan Paybacks Received 0.00B SC$ New Loans Taken 0.00B SC$ Loans Paid Back 0.00B SC$ New Loans Given 0.00B SC$ Cost of Setting Up New Corporations 0.00B SC$ Corporations bought, closed or moved and Enterprise Tax -18.72B SC$ Income from Selling Corporations 0.00B SC$ Cash from Closed Corporations 0.00B SC$ Materials Purchased on the Market 0.00B SC$ Materials Sold on the Market 0.00B SC$ Raw Materials Purchased from own Corporations 0.00B SC$ Raw Materials Sold to own Corporations 0.00B SC$ Cash Transfers To and From Corporations -145.00B SC$ Profit Payments and Cash Transfers 7.29B SC$ Bonuses and Awards 0.00B SC$ Cost of Financial Services 0.00B SC$ Cash Exchanged for Gold Coins 0.00B SC$ Income/Cost of Shares 0.00B SC$ Income from Dividend from Public Corporations 0.00B SC$ Cash Available 1,755.03B SC$ Total Employed 93,841,553 Average Salary per Worker per Month 6,492.00 SC$ Total Production 2,630.17B SC$ Cash Flow - Totals in All Corporations Total Turnover - Products Sold 2,313.26B SC$ Total Salaries -609.22B SC$ Total Materials Cost -816.67B SC$ Total Interest Paid 0.00B SC$ Paid to Countries for Resources Used -565.44B SC$ Total Fixed Cost -55.00B SC$ Total Maintenance Cost -79.08B SC$ Total Profit 187.86B SC$ Profit Transfer 50%
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| Tuesday, August 9, 2011 - 05:20 pm Wendy, I have played SC before. I doubt I am "someone we all recognise".
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Tuesday, August 9, 2011 - 06:00 pm
Duh, my point exactly My memory is unparalleled, uncannily photographic is more like it. I'm not sure why. It could be because I haven't been at any college parties in years and I don't get contact highs anymore. Everyone may not recognize you, but I probably would lol. You "think" we all wouldn't recognize My wise father always told me, "Thinking comes from not "knowing" Well I know you aren't American, LuLz
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Tuesday, August 9, 2011 - 06:44 pm
Why is there not a histogram for this value. I have a very strong suspicion that this is a possible cause of cash drain on CEOs across the board. Maybe not the only source, or everyone's source but for sure a problem. The absence of a histogram only adds to the suspicion. I have a number usually in the 200b+ range every month. I have not bought closed or moved any corporations for as far as my eyes could see. Is this ONLY my enterprise Tax showing up? If so what is the percentage of tax, where can be found if at all in the documentation(old or new). And why does this value not have its own column. Someone took the time to add it to the previous value it stood for, why not make a separate one in order to avoid confusion.
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| Tuesday, August 9, 2011 - 06:52 pm Also it appears that when you fill certain supplies for corps to 60 months supplies @100 quality, the quality seems to jump back to around the default value for all corp supplies when it reaches back down to 20 months. I don't know how this is the case or how it is accomplished but I doubt my supplies are increasing in quality like that without some hidden charge to justify the change. I have noted this several times. I will try and note it again and post whatever information possible.
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| Tuesday, August 9, 2011 - 07:20 pm Hey Wendyloo, Solaris used to be known as Kiteless. He was a member of mine, bobo and blue's fed for a while several years back when we were Nueva Vida. He is a brit brat lol I've always known him to be nice, however, I did raise an eyebrow recently when he jumped in on an argument I was having one day with Josias, which was a question if I still thought you were Wild. Never knew him to be confrontational before, so it threw me off guard. Funny how quickly that spread around...... but YOU got that I was speaking hypothetically and not literally....... meaning, do we really know who anyone is. I have heard through the grapevine that Klar is back in the game somewhere. Then again, who is Klarina? I've given up trying to figure out who is who. The two certainties I have in this game are who I am and who Blue is. lol
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| Tuesday, August 9, 2011 - 07:21 pm Wendy, the only contact we have previously shared is when you made the mistake of thinking I was someone else. I have an excellent memory as I shall demonstrate below. "Thinking comes from not knowing". I'm not Klarina... or Steeleknife Notice how CC called me "Kite" earlier in this thread? Having said all of that, you raise some good points about enterprise tax.
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| Tuesday, August 9, 2011 - 07:23 pm Jan, sorry about that. I must have been in a bad mood. 
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| Tuesday, August 9, 2011 - 07:26 pm It's okay. It's not like I dun have those days. ha ha ha ha :S
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| Tuesday, August 9, 2011 - 08:15 pm I've concluded that Solaris, given his defense mode when asked if he/she maybe is someone else, is Klarina, SteeleKnife, and Wildeye's.... no denying it now Lol!
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| Tuesday, August 9, 2011 - 08:17 pm and for the record, it has always been my position that Akasha was simply Wildeyes in disguise. You know build an account, then absorb it when it grows to be worth something. A shot in the dark. Anyways I blame the whole derailment of this thread on SolarSteelEyEs
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| Tuesday, August 9, 2011 - 08:24 pm I still think you need to look at why you are transferring so much cash to corps. Your actual sales figures seem ok, are they? you say a lot isnt selling. You could try maximizing corp cash and then you should have no transfers going on for some months even if they all sell zip. Publics shouldnt effect this because I'm pretty sure the Ent doesnt transfer any cash to them regardless. I'm not saying it is the case, but in the past I have found that the GM doesn't respond to concerns which are actually misinterpretations of the figures or us doing something wrong. Ask them a direct question of how something works and you'll normally get an answer.
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| Wednesday, August 10, 2011 - 09:29 am I'd rather look for something else to play and then close all of my countries and enterprises. Something isn't right and I lack the inclination to find out why.
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Wednesday, August 10, 2011 - 12:38 pm
So, "upgrade costs" alone could account for enterprise net cash (losses) of anywhere from -600B to -1T SC$ per [earth] day, for 4 or 6 'spin' worlds, respectively, even when a large enterprise (500 corporations) is reporting "net profits".
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| Wednesday, August 10, 2011 - 06:42 pm Sorry Kiteless, but that attitude is typical of you last time. Work it out dude, I have shown you ways, corporate partner just made a very valid point, don't sulk man, get in there and sort it. Always here to help...Crafty.
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| Wednesday, August 10, 2011 - 06:51 pm WHERE ARE THE WILLARDS!!!! And so it is... that Solaris is Kiteless/SteeleKnife <------ a name we could all recognize lol.
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| Wednesday, August 10, 2011 - 07:22 pm I have cut profit transfer to zero... more out of curiosity than anything else. And yes, that is a valid point about upgrade costs.
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| Wednesday, August 10, 2011 - 10:56 pm I wish my loser corps would just close down, instead of sucking my tits dry. I really don't have that much patience to close 70 corps one by one in 10 enterprises.
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| Wednesday, August 10, 2011 - 11:41 pm +1 LG
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| Wednesday, August 10, 2011 - 11:45 pm Really i am not losing as much as all of you and my enterprises are now making money and giving me cash, my enterprise on 75B, but thanks to my dividends i have a good amount comming in, i guess if you ipo more than 3\4 of them you will see less profit transfers. That is why I try to IPO all corporations.
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| Wednesday, August 10, 2011 - 11:46 pm Let the IPOing begin. 
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| Wednesday, August 10, 2011 - 11:53 pm Right on LG, I made this point when they introduced the feature. It is just another cash sucking mechanism. Like we all don't have enough of those lying around here.
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| Thursday, August 11, 2011 - 01:00 am I awlays want to play a game of skill to win and not to be based on chance. If a game is based on how much time is spent administering one's empires etc. then that is not a satisfying event in life, whether you're at the bottom or at the top. I'm currently only playing one country because of the time issue. A leader of a bigger empire or CEO would have more administrators to carry out one's policies, not to administer them oneself.
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| Thursday, August 11, 2011 - 03:29 am Yes I almost died trying to keep up with a 14 country empire on LU. Then they made everywhere else I went to faster lol. If the game were stable, then I'd be okay with all the maintenance.
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| Thursday, August 11, 2011 - 03:42 am Quote: "I wish my loser corps would just close down, instead of sucking my tits dry. I really don't have that much patience to close 70 corps one by one in 10 enterprises." Laguna, Got Milk? lol I didn't know you had tits!!!!!
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| Thursday, August 11, 2011 - 05:00 pm LOL!... Does that mean "sucking my tits dry" isn't a common english expression"? Oh dear. :/
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| Thursday, August 11, 2011 - 08:53 pm LOL. NO it is not LG, even in America!
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