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Obama is a socialist

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Laguna

Saturday, March 12, 2011 - 12:05 am Click here to edit this post
If you don't think there's anything wrong with that (mis)statement, you are part of a problem. If you try to argue what I just said, you are part of a larger problem.

Why did this come up? Because of this guy.

To make the point.

hymy1 (Kebir Blue)

Saturday, March 12, 2011 - 02:36 am Click here to edit this post
I wish he was a socialist.

Danny Miller (Little Upsilon)

Saturday, March 12, 2011 - 03:47 am Click here to edit this post
Obama is the problem!

OsterTech (Golden Rainbow)

Saturday, March 12, 2011 - 11:24 am Click here to edit this post
Vote 1 Tiger Woods :D

General Jeremiah (White Giant)

Saturday, March 12, 2011 - 02:23 pm Click here to edit this post
The real problem is the banksters (gangsters), because they own you and your family and all your presidents, because they did grab your balls back in 1913...

Maestro2000 (White Giant)

Saturday, March 12, 2011 - 02:40 pm Click here to edit this post
Vote for Pedro!

Scarlet (Little Upsilon)

Saturday, March 12, 2011 - 06:39 pm Click here to edit this post
Banksters don't own me.

Nothim (Fearless Blue)

Saturday, March 12, 2011 - 08:57 pm Click here to edit this post
Speaking as someone in the military. If we cut the waste and un needed forced down our throats programs no one wanted but we build anyway. We could fund schools healthcare and Medicare and pay off the debt.

There was a stat I could not find something like - we spend more on our military than the next 10 countries combined and 8 of them are our allies


Lets be real how many terrorist have attacked us with 3rd gen stealth fighters, oversized nuclear attack subs and next gen aircraft carriers. Last I looked at a map of our bases around the world there is a US controlled or allied airfield within range of any ware on the planet.

Here is how we do spend our money http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2010/02/01/us/budget.html

Notice the programs that went down are all the programs that take care of us. Health veterans benefits unemployment. Some basic education went up but that was mainly due to states cutting education to nothing and the Fed trying to make up for some of it. Yet when I hear the news its like these are the programs that are out of control.

Out of control is Military spending Medicare Social Security and interest on the Debt. But NO ONE ever talks about cutting these.

But then some one did once say that the wasteful military spending was corporate welfare for the rich.

I am not saying slash the military to nothing just get rid of the gee wiz thats cool but we will never use it against anyone programs and cut the waste.

I am not saying do away Medicare and Social Security but some reform would be nice and not giving it to millionaires and people who do not need it would be cool too.

Cut the waste and fund the fighters in the field and the man in the street.

I remember reading somewhere something about - to promote the general welfare.
Now were did I see that one again?

Synicus (White Giant)

Sunday, March 13, 2011 - 01:26 am Click here to edit this post
I wish Obama was a socialist too, not that it would matter, lol.
Government type isn't much of a problem until it becomes fanatic. Fanatic Captitalism is your deamon. Ceo's run a government they don't care about and the media.

Media deamonizes all against the system and blurs your focus. A reported said in ten minutes atleast ten times, Japan is used to earthquakes and tsunamies. No coverage on the wars you fight and censored from caring about dictators massaquring their people.

Government becomes a consumer who's budget can be manipulated easier than yours and passes laws that force you to consume. Funny thing is, most of what your forced to consume is either insubstantual or extreamly bad for your health.

Of the 10+ wars America is currently in, it seems they are only winning Two. The war on Poverty and war on drugs. Soon if not already you will be poor and dieing from persciption medications.

Psycho_Honey

Sunday, March 13, 2011 - 03:05 am Click here to edit this post
Scarlet, you're owneD

By The Banksters...

Do I really have to post a video?

Jojo T. Hun

Sunday, March 13, 2011 - 03:30 am Click here to edit this post
This is the most scatter-brained thread I've ever seen here.

Psycho_Honey

Sunday, March 13, 2011 - 09:12 am Click here to edit this post
You didn't look very far then Jojo.

Linebacker Six (Little Upsilon)

Sunday, March 13, 2011 - 10:56 pm Click here to edit this post

Quote:

The Wage-Slaves
1902

Oh, glorious are the guarded heights
Where guardian souls abide--
Self-exiled from our gross delights--
Above, beyond, outside:
An ampler arc their spirit swings--
Commands a juster view--
We have their word for all these things,
No doubt their words are true.

Yet we, the bond slaves of our day,
Whom dirt and danger press--
Co-heirs of insolence, delay,
And leagued unfaithfulness--
Such is our need must seek indeed
And, having found, engage
The men who merely do the work
For which they draw the wage.

From forge and farm and mine and bench,
Deck, altar, outpost lone--
Mill, school, battalion, counter, trench,
Rail, senate, sheepfold, throne--
Creation's cry goes up on high
From age to cheated age:
"Send us the men who do the work
"For which they draw the wage!"

Words cannot help nor wit achieve,
Nor e'en the all-gifted fool,
Too weak to enter, bide, or leave
The lists he cannot rule.
Beneath the sun we count on none
Our evil to assuage,
Except the men that do the work
For which they draw the wage.

When through the Gates of Stress and Strain
Comes forth the vast Event--
The simple, sheer, sufficing, sane
Result of labour spent--
They that have wrought the end unthought
Be neither saint nor sage,
But only men who did the work
For which they drew the wage.

Wherefore to these the Fates shall bend
(And all old idle things )
Werefore on these shall Power attend
Beyond the grip of kings:
Each in his place, by right, not grace,
Shall rule his heritage--
The men who simply do the work
For which they draw the wage.

Not such as scorn the loitering street,
Or waste, to earth its praise,
Their noontide's unreturning heat
About their morning ways;
But such as dower each mortgaged hour
Alike with clean courage--
Even the men who do the work
For which they draw the wage--
Men, like to Gods, that do the work
For which they draw the wage--
Begin-continue-close that work
For which they draw the wage!
-Rudyard Kipling



If that is a bit Leftist for your taste, try this one:

Quote:

An Imperial Rescript
1890

Now this is the tale of the Council the German Kaiser decreed,
To ease the strong of their burden, to help the weak in their need,
He sent a word to the peoples, who struggle, and pant, and sweat,
That the straw might be counted fairly and the tally of bricks be set.

The Lords of Their Hands assembled; from the East and the West they drew --
Baltimore, Lille, and Essen, Brummagem, Clyde, and Crewe.
And some were black from the furnace, and some were brown from the soil,
And some were blue from the dye-vat; but all were wearied of toil.

And the young King said: -- "I have found it, the road to the rest ye seek:
The strong shall wait for the weary, the hale shall halt for the weak:
With the even tramp of an army where no man breaks from the line,
Ye shall march to peace and plenty in the bond of brotherhood -- sign!"

The paper lay on the table, the strong heads bowed thereby,
And a wail went up from the peoples: -- "Ay, sign -- give rest, for we die!"
A hand was stretched to the goose-quill, a fist was cramped to scrawl,
When -- the laugh of a blue-eyed maiden ran clear through the Council-hall.

And each one heard Her laughing as each one saw Her plain --
Saidie, Mimi, or Olga, Gretchen, or Mary Jane.
And the Spirit of Man that is in Him to the light of the vision woke;
And the men drew back from the paper, as a Yankee delegate spoke: --

"There's a girl in Jersey City who works on the telephone;
We're going to hitch our horses and dig for a house of our own,
With gas and water connections, and steam-heat through to the top;
And, W. Hohenzollern, I guess I shall work till I drop."

And an English delegate thundered: -- "The weak an' the lame be blowed!
I've a berth in the Sou'-West workshops, a home in the Wandsworth Road;
And till the 'sociation has footed my buryin' bill,
I work for the kids an' the missus. Pull up? I be damned if I will!"

And over the German benches the bearded whisper ran: --
"Lager, der girls und der dollars, dey makes or dey breaks a man.
If Schmitt haf collared der dollars, he collars der girl deremit;
But if Schmitt bust in der pizness, we collars der girl from Schmitt."

They passed one resolution: -- "Your sub-committee believe
You can lighten the curse of Adam when you've lifted the curse of Eve.
But till we are built like angels -- with hammer and chisel and pen,
We will work for ourself and a woman, for ever and ever, amen."

Now this is the tale of the Council the German Kaiser held --
The day that they razored the Grindstone, the day that the Cat was belled,
The day of the Figs from Thistles, the day of the Twisted Sands,
The day that the laugh of a maiden made light of the Lords of Their Hands.
-Rudyard Kipling




There you go Laguna, my friend. I return your political hand grenade to you.

Nothing kills a thread faster than culture.


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