| whiteboy (White Giant) | Monday, August 9, 2010 - 08:14 am 
I have been debating whether to post some of this stuff and this are just some things from the beginning of research but I think it makes it pretty clear that we really expected a fight from WGC and the last thing we were thinking about was a 'raid'. I have plenty more that I can post, but this should be a good indication of our thought process over the last month all the way up until after we decd:
8/5/2010 10:26:35 PM EO whiteboy (E-mail Address Not Verified) i really hope we arent overestimating ourselves here
8/5/2010 10:26:53 PM whiteboy (E-mail Address Not Verified) EO i really dont think so
8/5/2010 10:33:11 PM EO whiteboy (E-mail Address Not Verified) bbiab
8/5/2010 10:55:02 PM whiteboy (E-mail Address Not Verified) EO so why you think we're overestimating?
8/5/2010 10:55:29 PM EO whiteboy (E-mail Address Not Verified) well
8/5/2010 10:55:33 PM EO whiteboy (E-mail Address Not Verified) they are bigger than us
8/5/2010 10:55:41 PM EO whiteboy (E-mail Address Not Verified) if things go poorly day one
8/5/2010 10:55:48 PM EO whiteboy (E-mail Address Not Verified) could be a messy war
8/2/2010 8:21:40 PM whiteboy (E-mail Address Not Verified) EO i dont want joe blow 60 mil pop no defense in WGC getting a c3 holding dec
8/2/2010 8:21:46 PM EO whiteboy (E-mail Address Not Verified) no
8/2/2010 8:21:47 PM EO whiteboy (E-mail Address Not Verified) nono
8/2/2010 8:21:49 PM EO whiteboy (E-mail Address Not Verified) no raiding decs
8/2/2010 8:21:54 PM EO whiteboy (E-mail Address Not Verified) day 1 country
8/2/2010 8:21:55 PM EO whiteboy (E-mail Address Not Verified) day 2 country
8/2/2010 8:21:57 PM EO whiteboy (E-mail Address Not Verified) day 3
8/2/2010 8:22:26 PM whiteboy (E-mail Address Not Verified) EO thats fine then...they should be limited to jo, iain, jaffle, dale, kaymen, keith, aaron
8/2/2010 8:23:01 PM EO whiteboy (E-mail Address Not Verified) i think thats it
8/2/2010 8:23:07 PM EO whiteboy (E-mail Address Not Verified) maybe beo
7/1/2010 7:22:55 PM whiteboy (E-mail Address Not Verified) Elechristian well beast and i started working a little today on wgc strategy...i started snooping around a bit and i put together some data for us
7/1/2010 7:23:12 PM Elechristian whiteboy (E-mail Address Not Verified) mmmmm data mmmmm I like it
7/1/2010 7:23:26 PM whiteboy (E-mail Address Not Verified) Elechristian they've got almost 300 countries once you include the countries that aren't technically in the fed but the president is
7/1/2010 7:23:32 PM whiteboy (E-mail Address Not Verified) Elechristian 500 million total army
7/1/2010 7:23:39 PM Elechristian whiteboy (E-mail Address Not Verified) piece of cake
7/1/2010 7:23:41 PM whiteboy (E-mail Address Not Verified) Elechristian on LU we're at 220 million
7/1/2010 7:23:43 PM whiteboy (E-mail Address Not Verified) Elechristian and we're huge :S
7/1/2010 7:23:53 PM whiteboy (E-mail Address Not Verified) Elechristian 37 total members
EC's statement of 'piece of cake' there is sarcasm, just to note, in case it doesn't read that way.
As I have said, I thought we could win, but it wasn't a raid. We all expected this to be a very intense war with a lot of back and forth, it didn't turn out that way unfortunately and you can have your opinions about whether it was right or wrong that we decd, but I'm tired of the talk of thievery and raiding...that's just bullsh*t. |
| Scarlet (Golden Rainbow) | Monday, August 9, 2010 - 11:26 am
You should not be able to asset raid the largest federation of a server. This should be a question of ability, not of morality. |
| Jo Salkilld (White Giant) | Monday, August 9, 2010 - 03:45 pm
Elechristian was a WGC member for a very long time, knew us intimately, knew all the members targeted very well and fought with and against us in our internal wargames. He knew our capabilities, our strategy and our individual strengths and weaknesses.
I find it somewhat disingenuous that he 'forgot' so much and got it all so wrong. |
| whiteboy (White Giant) | Monday, August 9, 2010 - 04:41 pm
Agreed Scarlet, but that is exactly the accusation being lobbed and rather than continue that debate, I thought it would be easier to share some of our conversations to show what our thoughts really were.
Jo - I think you should understand that EC had a lot of respect for WGC's ability and I don't think he quite understood the level that we had reached in the war game and how much he had learned from us. I have much more from him in particular but I have not had time to sift through all of it, these MSN convos are quite long and difficult to read. However, there is plenty more and I will sift through it.
You can question EC's motives in this or call him a traitor if you want, but the honest truth is he was quite sure that we were up against a very strong enemy and that this was going to be a very intense battle. I was the most optimistic of the group and thought we could pull off our goals in a week, although I fully expected to lose a few countries in the process as did everyone else. EC thought that this would be a months long battle, I wouldn't say he was pessimistic but there was certainly concern. |
| Orbiter (White Giant) | Monday, August 9, 2010 - 04:46 pm
thank you, scarlet |
| Psycho_Honey (Little Upsilon) | Monday, August 9, 2010 - 04:58 pm
whiteboy Funny b*tch. 08 August 2010, 06:25:27
Stop spamming my inbox with retard messages like this. cool guy lol, oh lookie there you can say the b word. |
| Laguna | Monday, August 9, 2010 - 06:14 pm
It's wikileaks all over again! |
| whiteboy (White Giant) | Monday, August 9, 2010 - 08:43 pm
Windy-That wasn't 'spamming' your mailbox, it was in response to your completely classless move of bidding 50 GC on Jo's country that I put on the market to give back to her. You knew if I wasn't paying attention or made the wrong click then the country would be yours, a complete classless move, that SINGLE message was less than you deserve for doing something so dispicable. |
| Psycho_Honey (Little Upsilon) | Monday, August 9, 2010 - 08:47 pm
Actually, I bid 50 on all my enemies exploits.
Despicable has a nice ring too it, but that dress fits you more appropriately. |
| TuCulo EsMio | Tuesday, August 10, 2010 - 01:12 am
Under the current war game system just because you can doesn't mean it should be so easy done. I know about the prep time and that is hard for sure. But war is too fast any more.
please no argument about they should have been better prepared, that may be, but the game is still tilted towards aggressive style of play.
Now having said that I think moral issues are a bit much. its a game.
My concern is with a system that is designed in such a way that the eventual conclusion is easy lopsided wars. |
| TuCulo EsMio (Fearless Blue) | Tuesday, August 10, 2010 - 01:36 am
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| Laguna | Tuesday, August 10, 2010 - 01:45 am
I just realized that if I hadn't made that wikileaks reference, nobody else would have... Sad.
I'm beginning to wonder if any of guys reads the newspapers. In case you don't, I'm glad to inform you that Man has landed on the Moon. I repeat: Man has landed on the Moon. |
| TuCulo EsMio (Little Upsilon) | Tuesday, August 10, 2010 - 02:08 am
And Tiger likes porn stars.... |
| whiteboy (Little Upsilon) | Tuesday, August 10, 2010 - 04:19 am
I got it Laguna...that's where I came up with the title 
Barney - I'm not sure I'd say the game is geared towards aggressive style of play, I think it just seems that way right now because just as you have mentioned, there are so few of us with the knowledge...and then even fewer using it.
I do agree with you though, no more easy and lopsided wars...no fun. |
| Psycho_Honey (Little Upsilon) | Tuesday, August 10, 2010 - 04:54 am
Oh so suddenly... no fun... lmao. |
| King Xenu (Kebir Blue) | Thursday, August 12, 2010 - 10:16 pm
What is a moon? |
| Casual Industries | Thursday, May 14, 2015 - 08:18 am
and no more server wars were had |
| The_Wicked_Lady | Thursday, May 14, 2015 - 04:27 pm
Hi there, EO. I hope you are doing well. Hugs! |
| President of Montana | Friday, May 15, 2015 - 03:28 am
Wow, this thread is so old that there's even a name of a planet where the posters' countries are (or were).
I'm T.Wo (Kebir Blue). |
