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Friday, August 7, 2009 - 08:12 am  what country has the best army in the world? including quantity, Quality(training), capability, technology, numer of harware and nukes. we all know the United States has the deadliest army, but the real question is who will have the best army by the year 2020?
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| Friday, August 7, 2009 - 10:46 am Oh, lol I though you were talking about in the game.
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| Friday, August 7, 2009 - 03:19 pm First Understand that the US Military is simply an arm of the British Empire. The United States takes most the negative attention generated by Great Britain. It's our purpose in 'their' world. Before we were born they began this great illusion, an illusion of freedom and an independent country. This just isn't the truth though and it keeps them from the problems that King George had to deal with, rebellion in the colonies. What man wants to be free when he believes he is free already? America is little more than a wealth generating machine for foreigners. Fact- The Federal Reserve (Bank) issues every dollar put into circulation. The Federal Reserve (Bank) is NOT a United States Federal institution. It is privately owned and operated probably by the Rothchild Banking Empire AKA our 'friends' the British. Every Dollar that the US Government puts into circulation gets loaned to them at interest by this PRIVATE BANK immediately generating debt. Debt that the psudo government in Washington immediately passes on to me in the form of a 35% tax right off the top. King George outlawed the independent currency in the American colonies this made George Washington, the richest man in the colonies, upset as it put him immediately into debt to the Bank of England. According to Ben Franklin this is "probably the prime cause of the revolution". but hey, that's just Ben Franklin (call him a conspiracy theorist lol) In 1929 America was bankrupted. Powerful international bankers devalued the country, sucked as much up of real value that they could and reestablished the value. They reestablished this value by promising the labors of generations of Americans to come hence the Social Security system and your Social Security number by which you transfer the fruit of your labor. The fact of the matter is that the American Revolution has been undone. The American experiment failed before we were born just the illusion lives on. I believe America did really exist at one time because they would never make up a lie like the American Constitution. It's difficult to follow a present and a history full of lies and deceit. I suspect that the war of 1812 ended badly for America, but that's just what I suspect. So Great Britain has the fiercest military at this time. The last real American President, JFK said in a speech titled: The President and the Press: (Address before the American Newspaper Publishers Association) quote, "I want to talk about our common responsibilities in the face of a common danger. The events of recent weeks may have helped to illuminate that challenge for some; but the dimensions of its threat have loomed large on the horizon for many years. Whatever our hopes may be for the future--for reducing this threat or living with it--there is no escaping either the gravity or the totality of its challenge to our survival and to our security--a challenge that confronts us in unaccustomed ways in every sphere of human activity... ...The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings. We decided long ago that the dangers of excessive and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts far outweighed the dangers which are cited to justify it. Even today, there is little value in opposing the threat of a closed society by imitating its arbitrary restrictions. Even today, there is little value in insuring the survival of our nation if our traditions do not survive with it. And there is very grave danger that an announced need for increased security will be seized upon by those anxious to expand its meaning to the very limits of official censorship and concealment. That I do not intend to permit to the extent that it is in my control. And no official of my Administration, whether his rank is high or low, civilian or military, should interpret my words here tonight as an excuse to censor the news, to stifle dissent, to cover up our mistakes or to withhold from the press and the public the facts they deserve to know... ...Today no war has been declared--and however fierce the struggle may be, it may never be declared in the traditional fashion. Our way of life is under attack. Those who make themselves our enemy are advancing around the globe. The survival of our friends is in danger. And yet no war has been declared, no borders have been crossed by marching troops, no missiles have been fired. If the press is awaiting a declaration of war before it imposes the self-discipline of combat conditions, then I can only say that no war ever posed a greater threat to our security. If you are awaiting a finding of "clear and present danger," then I can only say that the danger has never been more clear and its presence has never been more imminent. It requires a change in outlook, a change in tactics, a change in missions--by the government, by the people, by every businessman or labor leader, and by every newspaper. For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence--on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day. It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations. Its preparations are concealed, not published. Its mistakes are buried, not headlined. Its dissenters are silenced, not praised. No expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed. It conducts the Cold War, in short, with a war-time discipline no democracy would ever hope or wish to match... ...It is the unprecedented nature of this challenge that also gives rise to your second obligation--an obligation which I share. And that is our obligation to inform and alert the American people--to make certain that they possess all the facts that they need, and understand them as well--the perils, the prospects, the purposes of our program and the choices that we face." President John F. Kennedy ____________________________________ "The real truth of the matter is that a financial element in the large centers has owned the government since the days of Andrew Jackson" President Franklin Roosevelt ____________________________________ Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men's views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the U.S., in the field of commerce and manufacturing, are afraid of somebody, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it. President Woodrow Wilson ____________________________________ Oops, sorry for the waking you up... You're welcome to hit the snooze button and go back to sleep if you want.
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| Friday, August 7, 2009 - 03:26 pm Look! I didn't double post! oh damn, I just did
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| Friday, August 7, 2009 - 05:05 pm How come there is no mention of Roswell in all that? There just HAS to be aliens involved?
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| Friday, August 7, 2009 - 05:48 pm HAHAHA! You know? somehow it wouldn't shock me lmao
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| Friday, August 7, 2009 - 05:51 pm Quantity=China Quality=England Capability=USA Technology=USA Number of hardware=(i would say) Russia Nukes= USA/Russia At this moment many superpower and emerging countries are making changes, some are cutting their budgets, some are modernizing their entire army, some are creating new ballistic & antibalistic systems. An example of this its China, this country is expecting to have the largest Fleet in the world by the end of the next decade. So the question still remains the same.
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| Friday, August 7, 2009 - 05:59 pm yeah but lets not confuse 'governorship' with sovereign nations. The new order is a global government. gonna add this link again:
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| Friday, August 7, 2009 - 06:03 pm http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw&feature=fvw
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| Friday, August 7, 2009 - 06:27 pm I've seen some bollox talked in these forums, but that takes the biscuit. "The United States takes most the negative attention generated by Great Britain." The US is the only power that likes to force its ideology on others in the name of world peace and democacy, regardless of whether the recipient of these kindnesses want them or not. And of course it also helps if there are financial rewards for the magnanimous deeds that the institutions that liberate the oppressed do for humanities benefit.
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| Friday, August 7, 2009 - 06:44 pm i have to agree with crafty on this oe... we are surprisingly intolerant of other political ideologies other than our own.
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| Friday, August 7, 2009 - 07:56 pm USA > your country. :P
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| Friday, August 7, 2009 - 08:06 pm Wait, why would you separate the "British Empire" and "American Empire"? List me one major conflict The British Empire could have (or any of their slave states for that matter) where America wouldn't be USED to respond. lol It seems I was correct and we're still taking the blame for the policy of the empire as a whole! "The US is the only power that likes to force its ideology on others in the name of world peace and democacy, regardless of whether the recipient of these kindnesses want them or not. And of course it also helps if there are financial rewards for the magnanimous deeds that the institutions that liberate the oppressed do for humanities benefit." This proves my point exactly! NOBODY in America thinks that's right, we all think it's wrong, we're not in control. England is multi-accounting! lol
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| Friday, August 7, 2009 - 08:58 pm "Wait, why would you separate the "British Empire" and "American Empire"? List me one major conflict The British Empire could have (or any of their slave states for that matter) where America wouldn't be USED to respond. lol " The Revolutionary War War of 1812 That's at least 2. Anyways, isn't that what allies do? War together? Something like that????? The US just ends up having to pick up the UKs slack :P
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| Saturday, August 8, 2009 - 12:06 am I can't help but think to myself in a joking manner: "aww isn't that cute, we have english folk who still don't realize (AFTER FIVE HUNDRED YEARS!!) that they as a society are addicted to dominating other nations and cultures" lol :D It's all good, gotta love 'em, especially Benny Hill.
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| Saturday, August 8, 2009 - 12:26 am but aint that like all other countries give me one good example of any nation that hasnt tried (even if it failed miserably) to conquered another nation or territory alreeady occupied by another
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| Saturday, August 8, 2009 - 12:49 am No country has the best army. Each country however powerfull is always vulnerable to the right counter stratergy.
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| Saturday, August 8, 2009 - 01:04 am Psssh Canada kicks all your army's asses we ride polar bears and use our whips :D we are so frozen that your heat radars can't pick us up and we sneak in to your puny countries and kick ass, with some help with our friends the Britins :D
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| Saturday, August 8, 2009 - 01:16 am That's Bullshit.
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| Saturday, August 8, 2009 - 03:53 am lol I'm counting Canada as part of the British Empire for sure. I mean you STILL have their queen on your money! 
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| Saturday, August 8, 2009 - 08:50 am I Like having the Queen on my money. Its a good reminder of our history.
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| Saturday, August 8, 2009 - 02:50 pm NEWS ALERT! Canada attacks Australia! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sx_7fhq2-q8
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| Saturday, August 8, 2009 - 03:36 pm Update: War widens as Canada invades Germany! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQ61qi-Sptg&feature=related
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| Saturday, August 8, 2009 - 04:10 pm America Responds! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWrE5P3UyH8
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| Saturday, August 8, 2009 - 09:37 pm OMG THX for the lols And shhh the invasion of the polar bears has begun mwuahahahah
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| Sunday, August 9, 2009 - 04:08 am Zimbabwe--they're so in debt no one would dare attack them.
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Sunday, August 9, 2009 - 03:11 pm
If you are citing rebellion in the colonies as the main downfall of British Empire, you would be terribly wrong. Although rebellions had occured in the past, they were usually due to the meddling policies of government at time (notably in India with the rebellion of the militias upon hearing that British rifle rounds were smeared in pig fat, subversive to their religion). By the time of WW1 the British government was supporting a policy of increased cultural tolerance, and the majority of the colonies were in a stable state: Ghandi himself urged the whole of India to support Britain in the war. Hundreds of thousands of Indians, Australians, Canadians, New Zealanders and Africans fought on Britain's side. In fact, the clear cut reason for the Empires' downscaling was the two world wars which tore it apart - in fact, you could say the British sacrificed their Empire in order to destroy other (more ruthless and destructive) European empires. After the world wars, the 'victors' were given huge amounts of land - a good thing for a massive empire you would think. However, the majority of the land Britain was given responsibility for was in fact massively unprofitable, which combined with the £12 billion it had spent on the first world war alone, economically crippled the Empire. Often people cite the 'Evil British Empire's tyranny' as causes of any unrest in colonies. In fact the majority of atrocities commited by Britain in it's time of empire can be attributed to escalation in violence not supported by the British government anyway; very rarely (if ever) was genocide a state policy. The attacks on Native Indians in America, Aboriginis in Australia and natives in Africa we usually a result of the entrepeneurial colonists (not under state orders) forcing existing rivals away from potentially profitable bits of land. Throughout this time the central British state was actually passing laws to protect the rights of native people throughout the empire against this threat. If you look at Belgian involvement in Africa or pretty much every interaction the Japanese had with China, you would see a massive increase in brutality. I am not saying Britain was blameless - it did plenty of disgusting things, but it was the lesser of many evils.
This is also untrue. There were no major economic reasons for America to seperate from the British Empire - on average American citizens enjoyed a far greater GDP and much lower taxes than in the home nation. In fact at the beginning there was little demand for seperation at all, the foremost demand was the upholding of the magna carta (no taxation without representation). The British government foolishly denied this, even though they later adopted it with the other colonies to maintain peace and efficiency. If you quote the Boston tea Party as an example of widespread disatisfaction you would also be wrong, if the evidence is actually looked at, you would find it was smugglers and black market tradesmen who threw the tea into the river - in disgust at Britains attempts at creating a 'duty free' tea policy which would drive them out of business. The brutal truth be told however, Britain just did not value the American colonies enough to engage in a full scale cross-Atlantic struggle for it. In retrospect this may seem hard to believe, but at the time of the revolution Britain made 3 times as much money from the West Indies alone than from the American colonies. This was because existing cultures in the other colonies could be subdued/subverted and their existing infrastructure improved. In the USA the land was generally uncultivated and expensive to develop - for example around the Virginia area people had to be given vast tracts of land to tempt them over. With regards to the British being in control of the American federal reserve and having the ability to financially cripple the state: In post WW2 years Britain somehow had to pay for the huge amounts of resoruces it had expended, so it turned to America. The conditions of it's loans literally forced Britain to give up massive (profitable) swathes of it's Empire. If Britain was in control of the American economy, would they have let this happen? Overall, people misunderstand the fundamental nature of the British empire. The majority of expansion was not carried out by the state - it was carried out by 18th century capitalists going to new lands in search of massive wealth, which is in fact the largest migration of people in world history. The most the British government did to encourage this was grant these colonists state impunity and loans. Once the colonists had a hold, the government protected their assets and attempted to increase efficiency by introducing European law and infrastructure. In fact, the Victorians believed it was their duty as the most powerful nation on earth to attempt to (not forcefully) improve the conditions of life in undeveloped areas of the world that it controlled. Another popular view is that Britain sucked the wealth from it's colonies for it's own betterment. In actuality, over it's entire existence the Emprie barely scraped a profit for Britain, due to the massive investments it made in the areas it controlled. Technically more % of western GDP was invested into Africa and the poor nations by Britain in it's time of Empire, than by the western world now. Taxes in India only amounted to 1% of it's economic output. Statistically there is only one African nation that is comparitively richer to Britain than it was in the 18th-20th century, that is, every african nation's (apart from that one) GDP has decreased in ratio to Britain's since it gained independance. ~Rant over!!!~
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| Sunday, August 9, 2009 - 03:24 pm hmm That's something to chew on. we should also look at the fact that the population of the American colonies wasn't even that of the Chicago Metro complex of modern day, about 3,000,000 people spread all up and down the east coast. One thing I am sure of though, I realize there is so much that I don't know, even a lot of things I've been taught I've come to the conclusion that I simply don't know the truth about them. I think we all get fragmented truth mixed with a good does of deception. Also, I'm glad someone else found as much humor in those videos as I did, especially the last one, it speaks some real truth about America if you ask me! lol
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| Sunday, August 9, 2009 - 04:10 pm "That is simple. In the Colonies we issue our own money. It is called Colonial Scrip. We issue it in proper proportion to the demands of trade and industry to make the products pass easily from the producers to the consumers. In this manner, creating for ourselves our own paper money, we control its purchasing power, and we have no interest to pay..." Benjamin Franklin ----------------- "The refusal of King George III to allow the colonies to operate an honest money system, which freed the ordinary man from the clutches of the money manipulators was probably the prime cause of the revolution." Benjamin Franklin ----------------- "Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both." Benjamin Franklin ----------------- "Anyone who trades liberty for security deserves neither liberty nor security." Benjamin Franklin ----------------- "When a government is dependent upon bankers for money, they and not the leaders of the government control the situation, since the hand that gives is above the hand that takes. Money has no motherland; financiers are without patriotism and without decency; their sole object is gain." Napoleon Bonaparte ------------------ "It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning." Henry Ford ---------- "Most Americans have no real understanding of the operation of the international money lenders. The accounts of the Federal Reserve System have never been audited. It operates outside of the control of Congress and manipulates the credit of the United States." Barry Goldwater --------------- "Deficit spending is simply a scheme for the confiscation of wealth. Gold stands in the way of this insidious process. It stands as a protector of property rights. If one grasps this, one has no difficulty in understanding the statists' antagonism toward the gold standard." Alan Greenspan -------------- "I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs." Thomas Jefferson ----------------
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| Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 10:01 am Well... that was something. Extra! Extra! Armistice signed! War over! 50 years of nuclear paranoia begin today! Ooops... Looks like I'm 64 years too late. Extra! Extra! Kennedy slain by CIA, Mafia, Castro, LBJ, Teamsters, Freemasons! President shot 129 times from 43 different angles Errr... Getting closer, but still not close enough. Extra! Extra! World unites to conquer the Antarctic! Penguin Army prevails. That seems current enough.
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| Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 11:40 pm You're the Fonz lol http://www.rhapsody.com/smash-mouth/fush-yu-mang--explicit/the-fonz/lyrics.html
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| Friday, August 14, 2009 - 05:20 pm /me goes to site /me clicks play and...
Real music?... I'll show you some REAL music! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiAxiGZKpGQ
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| Friday, August 14, 2009 - 10:03 pm Wow, that's messed up. Only US citizens are allowed to listen? Now that's messed up!
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| Friday, August 14, 2009 - 10:09 pm Here we go, it's the live version and it doesn't sound as good as the studio version, but You Tube allows 'Lagunas' to listen. lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=772FO4AhIH4
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| Thursday, September 3, 2009 - 06:29 am Solomon, everything you said is absolutely true. Any well informed person that doesn't think so is in denial.
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| Thursday, September 3, 2009 - 09:50 am Honestly? I'd rather be wrong. Turns out the world is much more evil than any of us would have imagined.
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