| Tendo Ryu (Golden Rainbow) | Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 02:18 pm 
I have in all my countries, and i have checked several other countries on GR and LU, this month i have seen a massive reduction in income in all countries regardless of the type of corps present. In my main my income last month was 632B, is now 327B, reducing a profit of over 300B to barely over 50B.
Is this just one of those random occurences that happen from time to time or have W3C implemented yet another crippling change? Could this possibly be the effect of the now weighted Quality of Supplies?
I look forward to next month to see if the trend continues, or if my income will be back up to it's previous level!
Regards, Tendo Ryu |
| Zdeněk Pavlovský (Golden Rainbow) | Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 02:35 pm
From my observations the market on FB is acting weird since around easter, but going from 400B profit to - 700B for no apparent reason as happened last month to one of my CEOs is a bit extreme.
Im gonna wait few game-months before spending time and energy to try to identify and document possible causes and notifying the GM. |
| Parsifal (Kebir Blue) | Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 02:46 pm
i think it has to do with the monthly change over. it should smooth out next month--i hope. |
| FarmerBob (Little Upsilon) | Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 02:59 pm
See what happened to your econ strategy:
Product Q is capped at 250, it would seem. Supply Q seems to be irrelevant. Corps will only produce at max upgrade level by type. Supply Q won't budge it, at least not in any corp I own anywhere. Game news said they adjusted the weights, but I don't see corp producing above its Q upgrades.
All you using the supply quality method to max corp profits just got raped.
Check your true publics. It looks like something got changed with CCP's. A bunch of my settings were changed to 25% and some are producing at 200Q despite 24% max controlling interest.
I will add more when I figure out what the hell is going on there. Some are still at 250 while others are not with the same share percentages? |
| Zdeněk Pavlovský (Fearless Blue) | Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 03:10 pm
Production Process Quality 224
Quality of the Product 293.9
Products Sold 3,677.14M SC
Production Last Month 122
Latest Market Price: 9.98M SC$ per missile
Sale Strategy Start at 320% of the market price
122*9.98 = 1217.56*2.96 = 3603.9776 |
| FarmerBob (Little Upsilon) | Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 03:17 pm
Glad it hasn't hit you. I'll have to maually order some supplies and see if I can get product Q to move. |
| Zentrino (Little Upsilon) | Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 03:18 pm
It almost looks like a 0 was removed from profit. Nearly every one of my nations lost 100B in profit on LU. Some more than that. Some went into loss territory. Just last night (9 RL hours ago), one county was profiting 150B is now profiting 8B. |
| FarmerBob (Little Upsilon) | Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 03:49 pm
Zdenek; can you put up the supply Q's for that corp? Thx. |
| Zdeněk Pavlovský (Fearless Blue) | Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 04:17 pm
Aluminum 112,905 tons 10,000 11.3 164
Chemicals 321,160 tons 85,000 3.8 159
Computers 367,218 systems 75,000 4.9 157
Electric Power 1,345 million kwhs 75 17.9 164
Electronic Components 1,958,865 units 300,000 6.5 157
Factory Maintenance Units 660 units 66 10 108
High Tech Services 3,003,986 units 125,000 24 162
Industrial Equipment 2,211,690 units 275,000 8 161
Services 520,980 units 150,000 3.5 164
Steel 99,239 tons 10,000 9.9 166
basically 160 with FMU 100q supplied manually. |
| Orbiter (Little Upsilon) | Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 04:31 pm
yes, sence about easter things have been fruity. about once a day, all the CEO's, (both of mine, and every other one i look at,) drop their sales way down, and take huge losses. then a gm or 2 later they make itt back up, with supper high sales... and now i noticed in one of my countries, i have a lot of corps with supply problems.
honestly it looks like something is going on with the buying/selling. W3C is probably trying to tweek it. shrug |
| FarmerBob (Little Upsilon) | Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 04:31 pm
OK. That's a lot heavier than mine. I'll need to boost a couple more products.
Glad to see you can still shortchange FMU, at least.  |
| Zdeněk Pavlovský (Fearless Blue) | Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 05:20 pm
I was testing different qualities of supplies and up to around 130-135 quality of supplies had indeed little or no effect on quality of product. dont make sense to me but .. |
| Siva . (Little Upsilon) | Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 08:53 pm
You know... in the RL, sometimes adding small quantities of high quality additives can make a huge difference in the final product. This change was not made in the name or realism. It was to nerf the last area where manually contracting did any good - the last area of experimentation and inventiveness. It makes sense that if you carefully manually order things, there should be a benefit. I'm not saying weighted averages aren't also realistic, i'm only saying it is NO MORE OR LESS realistic than how it worked before.... especially considering there were only two corporations that really benefited from manual supplies, two others that showed fair benefits from it, and about three or four others that showed marginal benefits.
The rest of the corps bought products in proportions that the quality did not need to be weighted since the proportions were already close enough as to have the same effect.
I guess they REALLY want everyone to just be peaceful CEO havens. |
