| Jack Frost (Kebir Blue) | Tuesday, March 10, 2009 - 08:35 am 
2:54:24 AM: wait
2:54:35 AM: whats is the best way to sell something
2:54:41 AM: sorry
2:54:55 AM: best price
2:55:04 AM: k
2:55:04 AM: if you dont mind waiting for it to sell
2:55:14 AM: or immediate if you need the money sooner
2:55:32 AM: yea
2:55:46 AM: are you like the creator or something
2:55:55 AM: no
2:56:00 AM: im just someone that helps people
2:56:04 AM: just a normal player
2:56:07 AM: apparently Im a vet
2:56:09 AM: ?
2:56:13 AM: o
2:56:18 AM: nie
2:56:23 AM: *nice
2:56:25 AM: if you wanna make it far in this game show respect to those that came before you
2:56:34 AM: ask specific questions
2:56:45 AM: and when the time comes answer someone who came after you
2:57:11 AM: y am i being disrespectful
2:57:19 AM: no
2:57:31 AM: just giving you pointers to get you far in this game
2:57:33 AM: yea
2:57:42 AM: thanks cuz im really new
2:57:56 AM: i dont know what the hell i am doing
2:59:31 AM: what world are you on?
2:59:36 AM: now will my things sell for sure
2:59:45 AM: golden rainbw
2:59:47 AM: yes
2:59:50 AM: might take a bit
2:59:55 AM: k
2:59:56 AM: are you in a fed yet?
3:00:16 AM: yea my own but can i see your
3:00:28 AM: ill join
3:01:07 AM: I'm not a leader in this fed so I cannot invite you
3:01:23 AM: o ok
3:01:23 AM: if you were on LU which is my turf I could take you in and nurture you
3:01:34 AM: itss cool
3:01:34 AM: how long have you been playing?
3:01:41 AM: like a few days
3:01:48 AM: oh
3:02:00 AM: have you realised yet that this is a pay to play game?
3:02:13 AM: really
3:02:22 AM: yes
3:02:32 AM: so wtf
3:02:35 AM: you have 21 days of free play then you have to pay $12
3:02:49 AM: wow thats bs
3:02:51 AM: then its $4 a month if you keep to 1 world
3:03:20 AM: well looks like i only got a week or two
3:03:25 AM: they charge because this game took a lot of programming with the depth that it has and nothing in life is truly free
3:03:44 AM: true
3:04:55 AM: you can make this game pay you to play it though with some hard work and a tad bit of dedication
3:05:29 AM: really how
3:06:17 AM: well you can transfer money out of your countries into GC's and once you have 1000 gc and your countries are lvl 3 you can cash out in which they pay you $25
3:06:58 AM: wow
3:07:26 AM: well ill try
3:08:05 AM: and these coins are what you can use to pay them
3:08:19 AM: no you pay in cash
3:08:31 AM: that covers your subscription fee
3:08:53 AM: o ok
3:08:53 AM: you then have a world rent which is 30gc per month which you get 90gc when you pay $12
3:08:56 AM: i see
3:09:36 AM: so your initial $12 can cover you for 3 months unless you decide to buy population or inject cash into your empire
3:17:10 AM: how do i delete my account
3:18:27 AM: you need to cancel the registratin of your country and then go to the main page and click My Accoun > Closing My Account
3:18:59 AM: how do i cancle the registration of my country
3:19:09 AM: im looking for that right now
3:19:19 AM: k thanks
3:22:52 AM: I can't find it
3:23:04 AM: shit
3:23:10 AM: if you let your account run past the 21 days without paying they will cancel it for you
3:23:22 AM: o ok
3:23:50 AM: well thank you for all that you have done
3:24:01 AM: your welcome
3:24:09 AM: do you mind if i use our conversation
3:24:24 AM: to let them know that they need to advertise better that this is a pay to play?
3:25:02 AM: yes you may ind im glad that you do because im very disapointed
3:25:18 AM: it has been brought up before
3:25:28 AM: hopefully this will let them see the light of day
3:25:38 AM: yea
3:25:47 AM: if you do decide to come back I am on Little Upsilon I will gladly help you out
3:26:09 AM: yea well i might make a country there
3:26:18 AM: if i come back
3:26:21 AM: ok
3:27:27 AM: good bye
3:27:40 AM: good bye tresp
I have taken the liberty to highlight what our friend Tresp said in bold and left what I said plain as I feel that W3C should address this matter. I have posted this in both Suggestions and General, so that W3C will have a harder time ignoring this problem. Please keep your posts to the GENERAL section if you are going to comment. Please and Thank You.
With Regards,
Dragoon |
| Lockon Stratos (Fearless Blue) | Friday, March 13, 2009 - 12:55 am
[7:41:01 PM] Well, Did you read the documentations?
[7:41:10 PM] o shit
[7:41:21 PM] no
[7:41:35 PM] sckings has become available
[7:41:36 PM] Well start reading that you really wanna know.
[7:41:44 PM] Most of the information is on the Documents.
[7:41:55 PM] and where are these
[7:42:49 PM] https://www.simcountry.com/cgi-bin/cgip?plog&miSite=simcountry
[7:42:53 PM] Look for documentation.
[7:42:55 PM] where might one go to find these so called documentss
[7:43:02 PM] k
[7:43:08 PM] sckings has left
[7:43:13 PM] i :p
[7:43:24 PM] daleksec has left
[7:43:54 PM] so you havta pay to play this game
[7:44:00 PM] Well,
[7:44:05 PM] You have 2 weeks to play.
[7:44:21 PM] So make your time, But yes you do pay to play this game longer.
[7:44:43 PM] wow thats jewish
[7:44:46 PM] Simcountry is advanced on their programmings
[7:44:51 PM] That is the reason.
[7:44:57 PM] They spent a lot of money on this.
[7:45:06 PM] Well it's not bad you can pay 12 Dollars.
[7:45:23 PM] yea but how many times
[7:45:46 PM] 12 Dollars for 3 Real Months.
[7:46:09 PM] yea thats almost 50 a year
[7:46:20 PM] Yeah..
[7:46:24 PM] im not gonna waist 50 on something like htis
[7:46:37 PM] I understand.
[7:46:48 PM] Well if you still want to play
[7:46:52 PM] then i can still help you.
[7:47:09 PM] well i got 10 days let
[7:47:14 PM] I see.
[7:47:23 PM] So you staying or leaving?
[7:47:25 PM] and i think im doing prett good
[7:47:30 PM] Ok.
[7:47:31 PM] leavein
[7:47:39 PM] Well do you mind if i post this
[7:47:49 PM] what do you mean
[7:47:50 PM] chat on forums?
[7:48:03 PM] k what do oyu meamn
[7:49:12 PM] alexanderthegreat007 has become available
[7:49:13 PM] Can i post this conversation on forums
[7:49:18 PM] so they can advertise better?
[7:49:33 PM] It's just disappointing to about to make a new friend
[7:49:38 PM] and he's leaving.
[7:50:08 PM] yes i understand
[7:50:27 PM] yea idc
[7:50:49 PM] i already hd this kinda chat with someone else already tho
[7:50:59 PM] they re the ones that told me you had to pay
Here's another example, I feel sad that a friend i was about to make could leave. I agree with Dragoon, It needs to be better. |
| ShcyzMattiCa (Little Upsilon) | Friday, March 13, 2009 - 02:11 am
[7:43:54 PM] so you havta pay to play this game
[7:44:00 PM] Well,
[7:44:05 PM] You have 2 weeks to play.
[7:44:21 PM] So make your time, But yes you do pay to play this game longer.
[7:44:43 PM] wow thats jewish
LoL 
What was his name. . . again??? |
| Lockon Stratos (Fearless Blue) | Friday, March 13, 2009 - 03:13 am
Tresp, I think. Yeah, It's probably Tresp. |
| Pathetic Sheep (White Giant) | Friday, March 13, 2009 - 10:01 am
No one would ever try playing an online game if the cost was charged upfront. The registration fees are easy to find if you look for them. I remember seeing that you can play unregistered for 30 days. Anyone can set up a new president every 30 days. You could keep doing that. In that sense it is free to play. Some online games reset every month or two and then also charge, or force you to look at adds.
If W3C actually advertised as pay to play the game would fail to get any new members. It would make as much sense as dropping the server in the canal. |
| Zdeněk Pavlovský | Friday, March 13, 2009 - 01:00 pm
When the game was free, based on donations, it did not work ~ not enough players were willing/able to donate to make it for the owners worthwhile.
Coffee grinder tuco .. however, the biggest mistake was not to implement pay2play system, which is present in many successful online games, as most people do understand and agree that paying for service or entertainment is appropriate. The biggest mistake was the Cash Market which is kind of SC novelty, genius system not present, at least to my knowledge, anywhere.
Sure to become full member it costs around $4 per month, however, how much is required to become competitive? How much does it cost to have country or empire with 100s of millions of population, 100s of trillions in military assets?
Instead of playing a game people worry about their money, and thats one of the reasons why there is little or no interaction. Instead of making players happy the GM makes statements like "and why should I pay you? ask the US government to pay you .." Thats why there almost no restrictions on pouring cash in, but severe restrictions on cashing out. Instead of giving players opportunity to get their stuff in-game by using skills and determination, players are given the Cash Market. Instead of getting something special, access to new weapon type, corp type or feature, for reaching higher levels, there are Gold Coins rewards which are not special at all.
And no, it does not matter if its few cents or few dollars. People don't like losing their money no matter how little it is. Every cent, every dollar matters and retailers know it very well. Thats why stuff costs 1.99 not 2, thats why few dollars or cents off is called sale, thats why 3 for 2 makes people to buy a product even if they end up spending more than they wanted.
So, what else is new?
Nothing. I pay, I do not break rules, and I use the board to satisfy my needs. |
| Aryan (Fearless Blue) | Saturday, March 14, 2009 - 12:27 am
Nicely Put |
| Lockon Stratos (Fearless Blue) | Saturday, March 14, 2009 - 07:48 pm
It would get boring if you constantly keep making new countries :p |
