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Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 12:49 am  Ok, just logged into Britor FTZ today and I went from having about $35T yesterday to -$129T today. What's going on here? I know I didn't have any debt, hell none of my countries has had any debt for as long as I can remember. Britor shouldn't be this massively in debt. John R? Tom? Anyone?
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| Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 12:51 am Previous Cash Total 32,686,259.37M SC$ Profit or Loss 228,924.20M SC$ Income/Cost of old Loans 0.00M SC$ Income/Cost of New Loans 60,000,000.00M SC$ Corporations bought, sold, closed and moved 0.00M SC$ Cash from Closed Corporations 0.00M SC$ Cost of building new State Corporations 0.00M SC$ Cost of building Hospitals 0.00M SC$ Cost of building Schools and Universities 0.00M SC$ Cost of building Roads and Train Tracks 0.00M SC$ Cost of Financial Services 0.00M SC$ Income/Cost for Defensive Weapons and Ammo 0.00M SC$ Income/Cost for Offensive Weapons and Ammo 0.00M SC$ Income/Cost for Strategic Weapons and Ammo 0.00M SC$ Raw Materials Purchased from Local Corporations 0.00M SC$ Materials Purchased -596,392.58M SC$ Materials sold or used by Government 142,849.03M SC$ Spending by the Population 242,438.97M SC$ Automatic Cash Transfers 0.00M SC$ Manual Cash Transfers -168,000,000.00M SC$ Bonuses and Awards 0.00M SC$ Cash Exchanged for Gold Coins 0.00M SC$ Cash/Debt Inherited from Conquered and Closed Countries 0.00M SC$ Repairing War Damage and Civil Unrest 0.00M SC$ Income/Cost of Shares 0.00M SC$ Cash Available -53,060,000.00M SC$ I see that 'Manual Cash Transfers' has removed $168T from Britor's coffers, a total that it never had if you look at the top. Someone please give me an explaination for this? I've now got $60T in loans for debt I didn't create.
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| Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 12:52 am Its same problem as your population one. A massive bug.
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| Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 12:55 am Come to think of it, Britor did transfer $3T to Mindao in the past few days. One lingering question I have now is, am I going to be held responsible for this debt? @ Quaxocal - Yea, but I LIKE that BUG! It's the first time in forever that I logged in and saw HLW's in record numbers. Kinda sucks too as I just decided to increase my hospitals to 3100. If I lose this excess pop, I hope Tom will be kind enough to give me back the 15GC I spent to get pop in the first place.
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| Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 12:59 am I expect the backups to kick in tomorrow.
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| Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 01:05 am Great...Lovely...Wonderful. I should expect MASSIVE worker shortages but at least no debt. Probably be down 15GC's to boot.
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| Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 01:32 am Great Martock. I'm there too. I have 150T of debt in one country. Im doing everything I can to try and stabilise it, but nothings working. What happens if it goes bankrupt? Whats the limit? Yesterday - it had 87T in there - now this.....
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| Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 01:37 am Heres mine; Manual Cash Transfers -136,211,000.00M SC$
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| Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 01:40 am I'm hoping that we won't get shafted and lose the country due to this. That would simply be unacceptable. I'm not going to even waste my time trying to correct the issue as there is no way I can.
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| Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 01:42 am In the past with, granted much smaller, glitches W3C has always been good with compensating for damages. So I don't think there's any reason to panic at this point.
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| Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 01:47 am I'll panic when I see my pop go from 132m down to 117m and my worker shortages shoot through the roof. My fear with Britor is that the fix may not come soon enough and I may end up losing the country due to it being forced closed.
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| Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 01:51 am SEE!? SEE!? If the game was on Zimbabwean Dollars, everyone would have enormous cash reserves and no one would miss 136T of cash disappearing. PS: A loaf of bread costs 136T in Zimbabwe. PPS: That money better show up on my countries.
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| Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 01:58 am Haha, I just got paid +74T SC$ for taking a nap!
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| Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 02:01 am 1st off...I'm an idiot! Thought it was my lucky day...a good bug gave me 60T...thought I would get penalized with the newly instituted financial services fee, so after waiting 2 months I spent about half of it and then next time I check I am -66T in debt.! Cr@ptacular...going to drop me to level -1 and take a week and all my GC's to dig myself out of this one. It's like dangling a fresh carrot in front of a hungry rabbit!!! Moral...there is no such thing as your lucky day in SimCountry. If I lose my country I'm going to quit this game!
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| Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 02:07 am Procifica II 237,264.83B SC$ <---Manual Cash Transfers 229,287,628.81M SC$ Procifica IV -90,000.00B SC$ <---Manual Cash Transfers -128,280,982.45M SC$ Kinda fun to watch really. But definitely a total time waster. LG says W3C should be resetting the servers to some point in time yesterday before all this crap started. They keep daily backups, so no one is going to lose their country over this. Q
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| Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 02:14 am I hope not Q, if I do then i'm outta here.
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| Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 02:16 am I think W3C would be losing ALOT of players if we lost countries over this bug.
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| Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 02:23 am Just checked...I'm down to -90T. Man I did a lot of work on my slave today...is all that going to be gone...I set up 20 supply units, 4 Interceptor wings, new garrison blueprints, deployed garrisons, ordered lots of ammo...besides all the usual building and stuff. Then my CEO...seriously...it takes me like 20 minutes to go through 350 corps and tweak all my trade strategies...market has been really fluxing lately.
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| Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 02:26 am My CEO has just doubled in value, and I have more cash in one of my war slaves than I did - 23T more.
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| Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 03:09 am On KB two of my countries "The Love of WildEyes" and "The Glory of WildEyes" dropped to -50T and -57T respectively. EDIT: I am now up to -90T in both countries. EDIT2: Both of my LU CEOs "Bio Manufacturing 1" and "Bio Energy 2" are both at -60T I have trillions and trillions in assets that would disappear of any of these went bankrupt and de-registered.
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| Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 03:39 am I hope this gets fixed soon...here's the auto message from the GM to my main country: The netcash limit for countries that are part of an empire is -60T SC$. The netcash position of "Peoples Republic of abeZart" is -70T SC$. Please improve the financial position of your country before it goes bankrupt.
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| Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 03:46 am Zeba - I got one too, except triple those figures and your about there.....
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| Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 03:52 am I would not be surprised to find that this is not a bug, but rather willful and deliberate theft. It sure would fit in well with the other recent changes...
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| Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 04:00 am Stuart should've never joked about Boycotting Tom on LU : P
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| Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 04:16 am lol - shut up loki!!! 
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| Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 04:22 am And Now It's Time For The Final Dance... And We Will Be Back Here Again, Once More To Listen To, And Feel The Upplifting Sounds Of Our Favourite DJ's - The Warp Brothers... We Will Survive! And Now It's Time For The Final Dance... It Feels Unnormal When It's Coming, And Don't Breaks... Feelings... And Belive - It's With My Own Bear Hands... We Will Not Lie Down And Die. We Will Fight... We Will Survive! We...Will...Survive! Warp Brothers - We Will Survive There is yet hope. Even if the game falls I can still play checkers with the gaffers. I can still play peek-a-boo with the tikes. Nute Gunray
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| Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 04:26 am Staurt helped talk me off the ledge after seeing my post in the Trade forum just now. I turned a 14T surplus into a 91T deficit overnight...buy my DVD, and I can tell you how you can do the same to your country, too! ;)
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| Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 06:23 am Maybe i'm off topic, but just odd to me. Rebels attack factory in Queen of Battle The population in Queen of Battle has attacked Colorado Vacation vacation operator in protest of excessive education costs. There were 3625 casualties and 5688 people were wounded. Colorado Vacation is very severely damaged. The factory Colorado Vacation will be closed down. Infrastructure in the direct neighbourhood was ruined causing important damage to the country. Maybe this is just me but gimme a break, this is a cruel way to lose assets. Punishment for a high education???
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| Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 07:44 am Whooee, 179T SC$ and rising! Cash available is a hockey stick graph. No financial services fees yet! Free beer for all, courtesy of Bad Lagerland! Thanks W3C, you guys are the best!!
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| Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 03:20 pm This is getting beyond a joke; From: GameMaster To: Etruria Real Date: 18-02-2009 06:36:57 World Date: May 03 2379 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Improve your finances Message: The netcash limit for countries that are part of an empire is -60T SC$. The netcash position of "Utopia" is -210T SC$. Please improve the financial position of your country before it goes bankrupt. On looking at the country again, I noticed that there was actually 274T in cash - enough to pay of the loans which I did immediatley. Because of this, I have lost 3.14T for paying them back early, and altogether I estimate that I have lost around 27T because of this bug. If the issue is now fixed, can I get my money back please? 27T is the best part of 60GC at GM prices, so its not really a small amount. Also, could you let us know if it is once again safe to use the cash market please? Thanks.
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| Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 03:38 pm What the Bleep...I'm still -70T in debt!!! No reset...no nothing...so what the bleep am I supposed to do here! Do a bunch of work to get it out of debt, spend all my GC's and then the GM will fix it...waste my time or lose my country to debt! WHERE IS THE GM SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT!?!? TELL US WHAT YOUR GOING TO DO!
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| Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 04:18 pm The problem in my enterprise sems to have been corrected. I hope paying off 85T SC$ in loans helps my credit score...
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| Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 04:23 pm Oh... You want to know what to do? That's easy: nothing. In situations such has these, the only thing to be done is to warn the GM and supply him the required details. He has already been warned, so we now wait. When he does move to fix things, we just need to make sure nothing is missed. /me wonders what's the hold-up
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| Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 04:45 pm Just a guess here, but I think everything has been fixed now. The clocks for each world are moving as well now. They will do jumps throughout the day to compensate the time they were still.
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| Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 05:03 pm I got the same Staurt, wg. One country at plus 150T and another is at -90T..rgr that LG
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| Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 05:28 pm From Game news; February 18, 2009 Simcountry - Cash market problem In the past 24 hours we had a major problem on the cash market. We think that more than 100 countries and enterprises are affected. Transactions with gold coins and some transactions with population transfers were executed many times. The number of gold coins was not affected at all. This caused major problems in countries that have recently made a cash market transaction. We have now made corrections to reverse these errors. All countries that have received huge amounts of cash will see cash levels return to the previous levels. All these countries have received a 5 Trillion bonus. All countries that had a lot of cash subtracted, received all their cash back and they received an extra cash bonus of 5 Trillion to cover for any extra cost they may have incurred. Some countries received large loans to cover for the cash that was transferred. These loans will be paid up automatically in the first simulation run that is being started right now. Some countries have seen large population transfers in or out of the country. This depends on the cash market transaction. If they received population, they may have received it many times. If they have transferred population out, this too may have happened many times. We have now corrected all population numbers and each affected country received an extra population bonus of 2.000.000. The population in six countries have not been corrected yet and this will take place in the coming hour or so. There may be some problems with the numbers of workers or professionals in a small number of countries. We will make the necessary corrections in the coming hours. It is possible that some countries population will not be compensated to the full or that you may have any questions whether you were compensated for the problem we have caused. If your country was not corrected, we request you to mail us with the problem: Mail us the account mail address and the name of the country where the problem is. Explain what the problem is. We will immediately take all needed measures to fix whatever is wrong. We know what the situation was before this happened and we can fix it. We think that the measures we have taken will compensate any country that was affected by this error but we invite anyone who thinks that we have caused a problem and did not compensate her/him correctly to explain and we will swiftly solve the problem and compensate for any damage to any country. We are very sorry that this happened. The problem is a result of a change in the cash market that was intended to add some messages that will explain in better way what happens when a cash market transaction does not take place and gives the play the reason. This change has unfortunately cased this error. The problem happened yesterday during the last game update and many cash market transactions that took place after this change have gone wrong.
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| Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 05:37 pm Damn I KNEW I should've bugused! See what I get for being honest...
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| Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 05:44 pm Just checked into SC again and lengthy post from GM is up. Financial statement details in my countries appear to be correct. I also received a personal email from GM in response to my earlier email regarding the bug. It may have been an auto response to the problem, but it was very welcome and quite appreciated. GM takes a lot of hits in this forum -- some fair, some not -- but I for one appreciate the response.
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| Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 05:47 pm There are no automated or generic replies.
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| Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 05:48 pm Wow...how is this for one...Loans are too high The current debt is 528.66T SC$. You cannot order products or build new corporations. This can be solved: 1. You can try and sell a property you have - example: a corporation, 2. You can exchange a gold coin for cash and pay back some loans. Make sure you generate more income and reduce cost.
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| Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 06:17 pm I could always use 2.0M pop and $5 Trillion SC. Why wasn't i affected!
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| Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 06:39 pm i sell 7 gold coins for poppulation transfer, its says that all my bibs had been accepted, but just 2 of 7 millions of pop had been transfer, becuase of the cash market problem i think i couldn't recive the others 5mill of the pop i bought. any idea?
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| Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 08:14 pm What is the gamemaster's email? I bought population yesterday, had the bug, but then have had all of my purchased population removed, and my country returned to a c3. However, I haven't received any gold coins in compensation.
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| Thursday, February 19, 2009 - 12:11 am Wow fast respones time!! Now if only they will give us back the chance to be pretending we are rich. this is the email address webmaster@simcountry.com Nute Gunray
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| Thursday, February 19, 2009 - 03:09 am thanks nute. out of curiosity, how long does it normally take them to get back to us?
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| Thursday, February 19, 2009 - 03:25 am Days.....if your lucky.
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| Thursday, February 19, 2009 - 03:27 am LOL beast that is awesome. I bought pop yesterday and did not get it back either. I emailed them at 9:47 AM PST and it was fixed at 12:51 PM PST. But good luck with getting anything fixed tonight.
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| Thursday, February 19, 2009 - 05:49 am My countries returned to normal today, after purchasing pop yesterday. Although.... my worker shortages is still screwed up. Normally adding pop fixes that issue, but I'm still struggling with shortages.
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| Thursday, February 19, 2009 - 03:33 pm All I know is I have had my training numbers set to about 30 for High Tech Executives in all my countries for almost 2 weeks now and I am STILL sitting there with 0. How does that happen?
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| Thursday, February 19, 2009 - 05:27 pm KB has recently updated and I have seen HTEx reduce from 1200 to 76, despite having education priority set to 17, and HLM reduce from 5K to less than 1K. I have not built any new corps.
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